Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?

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#148150 - 11/12/07 05:44 PM Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
RGR RGR Planeteer Registered: 03/12/04 Posts: 24899 Loc: UK	Ok so I'm a nob :rolleyes: ...apologies...but this midi malarky is way above my simple brain computing power :rolleyes: ....all i need to do is have the ability to control my pod from the floor, in fact I just need to be able to switch patches from my feet mid song...I know Line 6 have their own pedal but i am not going to spend out any large amounts on this...I just need a simple CHEAP pedal that works...second hand is cool.So what would you suggest? Got any links? $\:\)$ Ta _________________________ https://bonnyr.bandcamp.com/ https://www.bandmix.co.uk/bonny-r/
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#148151 - 11/12/07 07:06 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
Blue Roots Blue Roots Planeteer Registered: 09/23/00 Posts: 12169	Here's one cheap on ebay... it's the controller that would be used with the ADA MP-1 preamp. Should work for ya... or something like this. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ADA-MC-1-midi-foot...7QQcmdZViewItem
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#148152 - 11/12/07 07:42 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
Mooseboy Mooseboy Busy Working Guitarist Loquacious Planeteer Registered: 04/24/99 Posts: 39245 Loc: The Apogee of my Life	RGR- I've got an old Rockman MIDIPedal that's been collecting dust in the basement. Pretty sure that it still works okay, though some of the switches might be a little sticky. Here's what it looks like: I'm sure willing to give it away, but the shipping costs from the middle of the U.S. to wherever you are in England might be monstrous (you'd pay shipping, of course!) Whaddya think? _________________________ 🫎 ➡️ “ Well, go put a microphone on him and turn him the f@ck down” ⬅️ 🫎
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#148153 - 11/12/07 07:43 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
Mooseboy Mooseboy Busy Working Guitarist Loquacious Planeteer Registered: 04/24/99 Posts: 39245 Loc: The Apogee of my Life	Oooh, that graphic looks like hell! Tell you what, check out the graphic on this page: http://guitargeek.com/gear/img/rockman_midipedal.gif _________________________ 🫎 ➡️ “ Well, go put a microphone on him and turn him the f@ck down” ⬅️ 🫎
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#148154 - 11/12/07 08:27 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
Ismellelephant Ismellelephant Loquacious Planeteer Registered: 07/10/01 Posts: 71623	I found inexpensive footcontrollers are a pain. You always have to screw around with midi parameters to get them doing what you would like. This controller just plugs in and works with everything I've tried it on without a bit of adjusting midi parameters. Unfortunately is isn't cheap, sorry.
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#148155 - 11/12/07 08:52 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
RGR RGR Planeteer Registered: 03/12/04 Posts: 24899 Loc: UK	Quote: Whaddya think? I think you are a gentleman and a scholar $\:\)$ ...are you sure? ...the postage..hmm...must be some site where i could figure out the cost of US mail to England if we can get the weight? Many thanks! $\:\)$ $\:\)$ $\:\)$ _________________________ https://bonnyr.bandcamp.com/ https://www.bandmix.co.uk/bonny-r/
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#148156 - 11/12/07 09:37 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
Mooseboy Mooseboy Busy Working Guitarist Loquacious Planeteer Registered: 04/24/99 Posts: 39245 Loc: The Apogee of my Life	Hey, RGR- something just hit me at lunch (no, it wasn't the waitress!) I'm not sure that the US power supply in the thing would work in the UK. I'll check to see if there's anything on it about working in a 220/50Hz situation. I'd think that UPS, FedEx, places like that should be able to figure shipping pretty easily. _________________________ 🫎 ➡️ “ Well, go put a microphone on him and turn him the f@ck down” ⬅️ 🫎
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#148157 - 11/12/07 11:04 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
klaus dibbelt klaus dibbelt Planeteer Registered: 03/19/02 Posts: 8247 Loc: erzhausen, germany, europe	the behringer fcb1010 is very cheap and very versatile, and built like a tank. absolutely recommendable. _________________________ "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing, and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there." (Rumi)
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#148158 - 11/12/07 11:09 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
Ismellelephant Ismellelephant Loquacious Planeteer Registered: 07/10/01 Posts: 71623	The Behringer FCB1010 is one of the controllers that you had to set up parameters with each piece of equipment you used it with. I stuck it back in its box and put it aside. It was $100 bucks so I got what I paid for.
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#148159 - 11/12/07 11:21 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
RGR RGR Planeteer Registered: 03/12/04 Posts: 24899 Loc: UK	Quote: Hey, RGR- something just hit me at lunch (no, it wasn't the waitress!) I'm not sure that the US power supply in the thing would work in the UK. I'll check to see if there's anything on it about working in a 220/50Hz situation. I'd think that UPS, FedEx, places like that should be able to figure shipping pretty easily. yeah that is a thought...we are on 240 volts over here _________________________ https://bonnyr.bandcamp.com/ https://www.bandmix.co.uk/bonny-r/
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#148160 - 11/13/07 12:51 AM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
klaus dibbelt klaus dibbelt Planeteer Registered: 03/19/02 Posts: 8247 Loc: erzhausen, germany, europe	Quote: Originally posted by Ismellelephant: The Behringer FCB1010 is one of the controllers that you had to set up parameters with each piece of equipment you used it with. I stuck it back in its box and put it aside. It was $100 bucks so I got what I paid for. Smelly, i may well be wrong, but i have no idea how a midi-footcontroller can work with other pieces of gear automatically in the way you want it to work. unless they have put a mind-reading processor into it, or something. since midi-controllers are, as their names indicate, using the midi-protocol for communcating with other devices, i don´t know what else i could expect than dealing with midi-parameters when programming them. granted, if you have a device of brand A and a controller of brand A, their user-interfaces might both translate the midi-messages into a more intuitive language for you. again, i am not familiar with this yamaha footcontroller. i am just curious how it manages to recall the presets you want it to recall and to control the effects you want it to control with any given device right away, and without bothering you with midi. from my long experience with midi, this sounds like a miracle to me. $\:\)$ _________________________ "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing, and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there." (Rumi)
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#148161 - 11/13/07 01:35 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
John P. John P. Planeteer/Artist # 323 Planeteer Registered: 11/01/04 Posts: 695 Loc: Kinston, NC	I use the FCB1010. It is not plug and play, it needs to be programmed. There are PC editors out there for free that allow you to program it with your PC that simplify the process. The Behringer is probably one of the most versatile on the market. I use it to control a Line 6 Flextone III amp and it gives me program change and Continuous controller change messages along with expression pedals for volume and wah. Previously I used it with my rack to control preamp/processors. Heavy duty metal chassis and has never let me down. By the way Klaus, I did see one of your messages on the Yahoo message boards for the FCB. I think Smelly has a pedal that just sends the program changes 0 - 127 in order. In the past when I've used those, you arange your patches in the order you need them on the processor. On some processors this is very easy on others it is a pain. With the Behringer you can access any patch in any order you want, but it does require you to do some tap dancing to program. _________________________ --------------------------------------------
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#148162 - 11/13/07 01:54 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
Ismellelephant Ismellelephant Loquacious Planeteer Registered: 07/10/01 Posts: 71623	Quote: Originally posted by klaus dibbelt: Quote: Originally posted by Ismellelephant: The Behringer FCB1010 is one of the controllers that you had to set up parameters with each piece of equipment you used it with. I stuck it back in its box and put it aside. It was $100 bucks so I got what I paid for. Smelly, i may well be wrong, but i have no idea how a midi-footcontroller can work with other pieces of gear automatically in the way you want it to work. unless they have put a mind-reading processor into it, or something. since midi-controllers are, as their names indicate, using the midi-protocol for communcating with other devices, i don´t know what else i could expect than dealing with midi-parameters when programming them. granted, if you have a device of brand A and a controller of brand A, their user-interfaces might both translate the midi-messages into a more intuitive language for you. again, i am not familiar with this yamaha footcontroller. i am just curious how it manages to recall the presets you want it to recall and to control the effects you want it to control with any given device right away, and without bothering you with midi. from my long experience with midi, this sounds like a miracle to me. $\:\)$ HAHA yes it is a miracle. For example, using the Behringer hooked to one device, the numbers were off by one from the patches on the device being used and the volume pedal didn't work. Plug the Yamaha into the same device and it works perfectly. I know you can probably get the Behringer to work properly but I rather play music than pushing buttons. I have had similar experiences with other equipment and the Yamaha just always seems to be hassle free. JMHO
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#148163 - 11/13/07 06:26 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
Mooseboy Mooseboy Busy Working Guitarist Loquacious Planeteer Registered: 04/24/99 Posts: 39245 Loc: The Apogee of my Life	This is from a guy that plays a synth guitar. Jeez, man, if you wanted "simple", why don't you just plug a Les Paul into a Twin? $\:D$ _________________________ 🫎 ➡️ “ Well, go put a microphone on him and turn him the f@ck down” ⬅️ 🫎
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#148164 - 11/13/07 10:49 PM Re: Can you chaps recommend me a CHEAP midi foot pedal controller?
klaus dibbelt klaus dibbelt Planeteer Registered: 03/19/02 Posts: 8247 Loc: erzhausen, germany, europe	Quote: Originally posted by John P.: I use the FCB1010. It is not plug and play, it needs to be programmed. There are PC editors out there for free that allow you to program it with your PC that simplify the process. The Behringer is probably one of the most versatile on the market. I use it to control a Line 6 Flextone III amp and it gives me program change and Continuous controller change messages along with expression pedals for volume and wah. Previously I used it with my rack to control preamp/processors. yes, that´s my experience, as well. you can make it do each and everything with up to 5 different units simultaneously, but that requires programming. you can´t get flexibility/versatility and plug´n´play in one midi-footcontroller. (there are a couple of useful template syx-files for setting the fcb1010 up to perform the simplest function with a particular piece of midi-gear, though). some firmware-versions had a couple of bugs, that resulted in problems with making the expression-pedals work properly. Quote: By the way Klaus, I did see one of your messages on the Yahoo message boards for the FCB. a couple of years ago i used to post there a lot. even wrote an idiot´s guide for that thing. Quote: I think Smelly has a pedal that just sends the program changes 0 - 127 in order. In the past when I've used those, you arange your patches in the order you need them on the processor. On some processors this is very easy on others it is a pain. With the Behringer you can access any patch in any order you want, but it does require you to do some tap dancing to program. yup. _________________________ "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing, and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there." (Rumi)
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