#1644587 - 02/17/20 06:28 PM
Any service still recover 2480 HD's
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C Jo Go
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Seems one of my clients wants to remix /etc a project from a few years back.. The HD has been corrupt for sometime -- it boots up but> no access to a partition ??
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#1644589 - 02/17/20 06:50 PM
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Not sure about how the 2480 stores its data, but the other models store data in a proprietary form that a recovery service can't deal - so it's what I've been told in the past. If the 2480 actually stores their track data in wav file format, then maybe you could recover the wav files - and possibly recover them yourself with a good (some are free) recovery software in Windows.
If it's possible for you to do it yourself in Windows, then your best chances exist if the drive has not been messed with since it became corrupted..... the more attempts were made to use it in its corrupted state, the less data you may be able to recover (from my very layman's perspective on file recovery).
Is it possible to just put a 2480 HD in a Windows pc, or in a docking station and read files? I ask because you can't with a 1680 hard drive.
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#1644590 - 02/17/20 06:51 PM
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#1644597 - 02/17/20 07:50 PM
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Well,, sounds like that's a solution that's tried and true. It should work in those cases where the hard drive is still okay, but the 2480 can't access its contents because of some data corruption that prevents the 2480 from reading its contents.
I'm not positive (because I've never worked with a 2480 hd in a computer before), but I believe you can save yourself some headaches by using an external USB docking bay that has standard IDE drive attachments (most of the docking bays I have tried are SATA and a couple have IDE cables and connectors as add-ons to the main docking bay.
Startech used to make a simple single bay docking station, which I didn't see in a quick search, but this one is similar (I don't know this company), but it saves having to open up the pc and connect internally - that is, if it can be accomplished with the 2480 hard drive. https://www.amazon.com/SISUN-Docking-Sta...0NsaWNrPXRydWU=
If the hard drive no longer spins up, then you've got a different issue.......
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#1644652 - 02/18/20 12:53 AM
Re: Any service still recover 2480 HD's
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If the hard drive no longer spins up, then you've got a different issue.......  -- just won't allow us to access a partition ... shows them all , though.
With this device you show ---could one take a FORMATTED ROLAND DRIVE in one bay and transfer my troublesome VS Scsi drive directly over ??
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#1644670 - 02/18/20 04:05 AM
Re: Any service still recover 2480 HD's
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I'm not sure that's possible - if everything on the 2480 drive is actually visible to Windows, then I imagine you might.
However, the corruption to your original drive doesn't sound like it's physical - It sounds to be data corruption and as the website instructions you point to indicate, only the VS can do anything with the data to make it right again.
I imagine (although I might also be wrong) that making a copy of everything on the original drive over to a newly (2480) formatted drive could also be copying the corrupted data as is - and not somehow repairing it as does sometimes happen in the Windows environment with normal pc data (like the way that fragmented data can become contiguous and sort of repaired when copied from one drive to another.
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#1644727 - 02/18/20 06:36 PM
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This could be a helpful item
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#1644740 - 02/18/20 09:59 PM
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Don't know.....
I fried one of my 1680 drives once with something similar..... not saying they're bad news....... just sayin' - don't know if it's what you need.
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#1644918 - 02/20/20 09:02 AM
Re: Any service still recover 2480 HD's
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There are many options to connect an IDE drive to a USB port, but try them out on a throwaway drive, first. Once you are satisfied it won't eat drives for breakfast (or lunch), connect your VS drive and copy everything off of it. Then make a backup copy. Then make another backup copy, just to be sure. Only then start working on your files to try and recover your data.
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#1644921 - 02/20/20 11:07 AM
Re: Any service still recover 2480 HD's
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There are many options to connect an IDE drive to a USB port,
Can you kindly list a few....haven't taken a pc apart ~~~ since back in the 80/90's
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#1644926 - 02/20/20 01:45 PM
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You don't take the pc apart to use an IDE drive docking station, or adapter connected through a usb port - unless your only usb connections are made internally, which is pretty unlikely.
You don't need a list as such - you already have some suggestions in this thread, including one of your own - and as gyorph has suggested (and I would agree after what I experienced and described already), whatever usb port device you want to use - try it with a "throwaway drive" first.
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#1645032 - 02/20/20 11:45 PM
Re: Any service still recover 2480 HD's
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You don't take the pc apart to use an IDE drive docking station, or adapter connected through a usb port - unless your only usb connections are made internally, which is pretty unlikely.
You don't need a list as such - you already have some suggestions in this thread, including one of your own - and as gyorph has suggested (and I would agree after what I experienced and described already), whatever usb port device you want to use - try it with a "throwaway drive" first.
OK :: maybe I will buy a few drives -- that can be tossed -- if damaged ...
So ~~ the IDE docking station adapter would eliminate me having to take the PC apart and connect the power and interconnects of the SCSI ( that's what we tried back in 98 ) ...that would be great ...
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#1645066 - 02/21/20 06:24 AM
Re: Any service still recover 2480 HD's
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Dan are these the correct drives EBAY 80gb
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#1645069 - 02/21/20 11:25 AM
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I should think so, although they are horribly overpriced, seeing as any 3.5" IDE/PATA drive with a capacity up to 120GB can be fitted into a VS-2450.
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#1645078 - 02/21/20 01:29 PM
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https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R4...&LH_BIN=1&rt=nc
Start with these search results, maybe. You don't need 80GB for your throwaway drives, but if it works good, at least you have enough capacity to make it worth keeping around as a spare, too. I just searched for 80GB because of the link you sent.
As gyorpb has pointed out - about anything will work for this purpose as long as it meets the basic requirements - IDE/PATA, 3.5", 120GB or less, 7,200RPM is good - if you want to get fussy, compare some of the drives in that search link to the ones on a VS compatibility list and buy something in the name brand/model type to suite - Was I always reading comments about how reliable the Samsungs were and how unreliable Western Digital were in the VS???... it won't matter a whole lot, if you find 3-4 different drives at el cheapo, cheapo prices (skip over those bloated sponsored listings ebay rudely stuffs into the top half dozen results these days - 14.00, yeah - 140.00, WTF?????)
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#1645079 - 02/21/20 01:40 PM
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So ~~ the IDE docking station adapter would eliminate me having to take the PC apart and connect the power and interconnects of the SCSI ( that's what we tried back in 98 ) ...that would be great ...
Your VS hard drive is probably an IDE drive - not SCSI - and yes, IF you get a USB adapter or USB docking station that has connections for 3.5" IDE drives, then it should come equipped with the necessary parts to connect an IDE drive to it.
If for some reason your original VS drive is mounted in some sort of bracket, you need to remove it - but this should be obvious, because you will use just the raw drive with these USB devices. I still recommend that you find a cheap docking station that is compatible with 3.5" IDE, rather than one of those other adapter types you linked to. The price difference can't be THAT much and the chance of it working THAT much better, in my experience (but it's not unlike to you ignore the specific suggestions of people, so do whatever you think and maybe it will be fine).
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#1645103 - 02/21/20 06:17 PM
Re: Any service still recover 2480 HD's
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So ~~ the IDE docking station adapter would eliminate me having to take the PC apart and connect the power and interconnects of the SCSI ( that's what we tried back in 98 ) ...that would be great ...
Your VS hard drive is probably an IDE drive - not SCSI - and yes, IF you get a USB adapter or USB docking station that has connections for 3.5" IDE drives, then it should come equipped with the necessary parts to connect an IDE drive to it. If for some reason your original VS drive is mounted in some sort of bracket, you need to remove it - but this should be obvious, because you will use just the raw drive with these USB devices. I still recommend that you find a cheap docking station that is compatible with 3.5" IDE, rather than one of those other adapter types you linked to. The price difference can't be THAT much and the chance of it working THAT much better, in my experience (but it's not unlike to you ignore the specific suggestions of people, so do whatever you think and maybe it will be fine).
Thanks --- yes > will go the docking station way -- Hope I can follow those instructions to the Tee from Roland ... sure looks confusing ... 
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#1645115 - 02/21/20 06:46 PM
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I would advise you to seek out someone who is proficient at messing with computer hardware for this, and any issues you are likely to run into going forward.
The VS’s are old technology, by now. They need ever more maintenance, if they are to perform reliably. Operating one will, therefore, require ever more skill on the part of the owner, in that regard.
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#1645163 - 02/22/20 02:35 AM
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Thanks Gents -- ordered the cheaper drives -- Need at least two on hand .. and takes a day to format .. Not really using much of the 2480 drive -- storing and tracking on VIRDIS
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#1645165 - 02/22/20 02:51 AM
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I should think so, although they are horribly overpriced, seeing as any 3.5" IDE/PATA drive with a capacity up to 120GB can be fitted into a VS-2450.
Did I read somewhere -- the CACHE had to be certain described # ??
Some requirement thingy ~~ with Roland
This one could work
Edited by C Jo Go (02/22/20 06:17 PM)
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#1645314 - 02/23/20 08:31 PM
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Found a drive -- ordering two -- and spend a day or more to format them ...
Edited by C Jo Go (02/23/20 08:32 PM)
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{ looks good on paper } 
-- the device would make it much easier >> on the first step. Sure someone could be "hired" to take on this transfer -- just have to be in the SCSI /ROLAND world of tech 
I didn't get my first computer until 1986 -- But, this one is for VS specialists 
