That's why we stay the straight and narrow with the VS system ... never stray off the deep end ... You touch those newer DAWS >> and it just leads to the harder stuff
The Roland can never push you to the bigger stuff -- you don't need a buddy appointed by DAW AA > you can shake the temptation...there is just nothing stronger there
Edited by C Jo Go*Crystal Studios* (10/16/1502:50 AM)
Tascam porta one 4 track cassette deck started my habit around 1989. Other gear was a little Tom Scholz Rockman, alesis microverb, and a yamaha drum machine.
Now my noise making machine is 95 quantum leaps more capable and my available time to play is a fraction of what it was in the 4 track days at age 19.
That's the irony. Many of the software things passing under that name today aren't really.
That's why I finally understood why people disliked the Roland and Akai machines so much. They were trying to create music, not record it. Most had never used a software midi sequencer. Never used software samplers. Both lovely tools that put their hardware counterparts to shame. In BOTH cases EXPONENTIALLY so....
Software DAWs still don't put hardware to shame other than by sheer brute force of 20 years of tech....ie, analog circuit models....double sample rates....standardized timestamped PCM file import/export....
Oh wait...downer....the right response was "I was 16 and I was bought a Fostex x26"....on that I made recordings that got me paying work in a local studio....all downhill after that.
My first actual DAW was the 1680, though. I fucking hated tracking to digital with a passion in the 90s. I knew that in the mid 90s, 20bit got great sounding results on really expensive converters....but, then everything in mastering went to shit--and that scared me off (wrongly)....I thought the shitty sounding "protools" CDs I was getting sounded that bad because they were made in new digital computers. Not because they were being clipped like ass in mastering.
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Why the churning, moon? What's not working for you with FL? I thought you were totally digging it.
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Why the churning, moon? What's not working for you with FL? I thought you were totally digging it.
well, i found something much better for me. the workflow is so much better in Bitwig. less clicking and opening and closing windows, more work done more rapidly.
i spend one week playing with it. that was enough for me.
unfortunately, it wasn't cheap. i could've kept using the cracked version i had but at my age it's not like i 360$ is gonna make much difference anyway. i intend to die with my line of credit maxed out. lol
anyway, Bitwig is the new kid on the block. it's a cross between Ableton, FL Studio and Reaper.
if i can mention only one feature that sold me right away is the ability to see and edit multiple MIDI and audio tracks in one window. i've never seen this in any other DAW before, not at this level anyway:
it makes it so much easier to line up different parts and tracks. the overall workflow and intuitiveness are outstanding.
Originally Posted By: C Jo Go*Crystal Studios*
That's why we stay the straight and narrow with the VS system ... never stray off the deep end ... You touch those newer DAWS >> and it just leads to the harder stuff
I was 16 and pushed a record button on a reel deck -- then the 4 track cart came == followed by a 8 track cart > and the bug caught hold -- Now the 4 track cassette did not come > till around until my 30's - every decade bought another tempting & spiraling device. But the dangerous grounds of WAV forms never pulled me down the road of no-return.
With the screen of dots & dashes < that MOONTAN has displayed > we know he has went beyond any chance of full recovery.
there just is no longer, any argument, for not having a modern DAW.
using old technology is fine, until it interferes with workflow.
having personally owned and used yamaha cassette 4-track recorders, TEAC reel to reel multitracks, fostex 16 channel reel to reel, Tascam 688, roland VS 880ex, and roland VS1880, all prior to moving to a desktop based DAW, not to mention several large systems in various pro studios,
i know that i work lightspeed faster now.... have unlimited tracks.... have instant access to effects of unlimited number.... and can basically do everything the largest studios can do, in the box, which is the one thing i could never do with those older systems
but beyond all that...
my recording system no longer gets in my way.
all the other systems, were like tears on my achilles, just before the race.
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DAW or DOH!
The whole scope of musical genre is being shaped by the fact that the scope of the musical playground is becoming limitless. I use the words musical playground loosely here, to describe an environment where, if one wishes, one can fuck about with audio until one is blue in the face.
The technology today allows us to experiment not only with the 'music' and 'sounds', it let's us dig deep down and experiment with the very ingredients that create these forms! The digital signal patterns, voltages against time, and frequencies against velocities and calculations against concepts. All a very powerful creative arsenal if one chooses to venture down that rabbit hole.
The truth is, we no longer live in a Digital Audio Workstation world! We are away past that now: It's ASM - Artistic Signal Manipulation. It's a given that there will still be guitarists out there looking for that SRV sound etc - but hey! - There's an app for that.
Like audio-tape > VHS > BETA-MAX> CD > DAT> Mini-disk > MP3: The evolution of the medium has no bearing on the sonic material to be placed upon them.
... You touch those newer DAWS >> and it just leads to the harder stuff 
