there's nothing like a lunatic to brighten up your day

My bad. Extraterrestrial Americans.

In your usual gifted asshole way you fail to understand that this is nothing new, that was the point of what I posted. You really are disturbed. This thread probably should be moved to protect the delicate, lol.

you're out of your league junior.
your superior tone and overbearing attitude are unwarranted, especially considering you can't think your way out of a phuckin paper-bag.

In your usual not gifted asshole way, you fail to realize that there are precious few people who would actually take the time to read whatever it is you post. -john

lmao

This thread has been a riot!

Sucks to get called out as a poseur eh?

Ever notice how assholes always think they speak for everyone? They always imagine a gang behind them, when in reality they are just a cowardly solo asshole. This jerk is so thick that he brings politics into play everytime he posts because of his signature line. Rightwingers only like politics in their echo chamber.

Havlicek is an angry guy who must have a difficult life or something. His superiority complex is second to none here except for maybe Gamble.

Silly question. Of course, there are many things. I have never killed, or been part of a military or parachuted from a plane, nor dived for pearls, nor have I been to India, and I still have a huge bucket list of things remaining to be done. Everyone here has done a lot of stuff, as have I. Nothing really unusual, I decided quite young that I did not want an ordinary boring same-same life, that I wanted a colorful and interesting life and with travel and that what I chose to create.

You all can think this is BS, but you will be wrong. The Nazca Lines are there, you can go see them as well and see how easily thee iron-rich crust can be broken to reveal the whiter sand underneath.

And it appears that Mr. Ismellelephant actually gets that racism underlies the assumption of white moderns that pre-Spanish Peruvians and Meso-Americans could not have built the monuments of their cultures, but had to have intervention by space aliens.

A bit more
"Despite criticism from the scientific establishment, including famed scientist Carl Sagan, the ancient astronaut and lost civilization hypothesis remains popular. According to Omni (1994:77) "One of Sagan's original objections was the underlying assumption that our ancestors were apparently too stupid to create the monumental architecture of our past." And indeed, this is the theme that cuts across all the diffusionist ideas about the origins of Mesoamerican civilization. Each of these authors argues that the Mesoamericans were incapable of creating a unique, vital and exciting civilization on their own, and that they needed outside agents to help them overcome their mental handicaps.

This view is not only wrong, it is also racist. It is racist whether it comes from supporters of the Caucasian refugees of a lost continent (see Hancock 1995:102-104) or the Afrocentrists who see Africans as the superior race (see Haslip-Viera et al. 1997:420). What these belief systems fail to understand is that humanity has no biological determinism, that intelligence and the ability to create and to understand are not characteristics belonging to races, but individuals (Jurmain et al. 1998:109). Mesoamericans had a long tradition of civilization and culture before the Spanish conquest, and no attempt to rewrite history can deny the ancient peoples of Mexico their cultural heritage. "

Re: the giant spider-in-the-sand thingy:

One thing that needs to be taken into consideration - perhaps more than it has - is that Sky claims to have actually been there and, apparently, spent time up close and personal actually studying/learning about this *particular* phenomenon. This, in my book, makes her POV *much* more credible than anything else offered here on the subject.

That's inappropriate Gamble

I first saw those lines on television in the mid seventies and my first thought whenever I see them ever since is along the lines of: "hey, there's those south american drawings in the desert that some believe could only be made by ET's".

I've not been to Nazca as she says she has, so I would defer to how she says the natives (or at least some of those she has spoken with) feel about all this. I have no idea who created the lines or how, but I seriously doubt that many (most!?) who believe they were created by aliens do so out of racism.

-john

I've not been to Nazca as she says she has, so I would defer to how she says the natives (or at least some of those she has spoken with) feel about all this. I have no idea who created the lines or how, but I seriously doubt that many (most!?) who believe they were created by aliens do so out of racism.

-john


I don't think that she initially was saying that they *are* racist - just that the natives view others as racist for making an assumption. Again, not far fetched. That she assumes a position that some might be racist for assuming that these native's ancestors couldn't pull this off - also not far fetched.

Do not denigrate the ancient peoples of South America by ascribing their works to space aliens.

Well, you notice that these "space aliens" must have built it" do not say that the fabulous structures built in Europe by ancient white people were made by space aliens. I do not hear them saying, Oh, space aliens had to have built the cathedral at Salisbury, the natives could not have built such a marvel.

Re: the giant spider-in-the-sand thingy:

One thing that needs to be taken into consideration - perhaps more than it has - is that Sky claims to have actually been there and, apparently, spent time up close and personal actually studying/learning about this *particular* phenomenon. This, in my book, makes her POV *much* more credible than anything else offered here on the subject.

I don't think that she initially was saying that they *are* racist - just that the natives view others as racist for making an assumption. Again, not far fetched. That she assumes a position that some might be racist for assuming that these native's ancestors couldn't pull this off - also not far fetched.

We break into your regularly sheduled programming for this news flash:

This just in, the guy who has called himself (because no one with ears would do it for him) "rock's last hope" AND conferred himself with the title "musicologist" for a similar reason, is actually saying someone "else" has a superiority complex! People's heads everywhere are beginning to explode from "irony-overload", and local EMT crews are rushing to provide first aid and cleanup! We can't confirm this, but independant sources are telling us that "Al/Scott" will soon be joining "Moon" and a select few others for an intellectual circle jerk. More details as they become available!

-john