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#1419148 - 09/20/15 05:41 AM Warning to Alan: do not click on this!
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I've seen the DAW of tomorrow.
but it's not made to be seen by human eyes.
i've seen some videos on Youtube but i'm not sure if i'll be alright ever again.

this thing is called Usine Hollyhock II.
here are a couple of videos from Youtube:





the website is:
http://www.sensomusic.org/

and they have a demo you can try.

but i'm just posting this as a warning to you, and others that might be reading this, to steer clear off this thing.
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#1419154 - 09/20/15 10:27 AM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: moontan]
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OCHT!

too late \:\)

I accidentally clicked the download button too.

looks like fun

Thanks for the heads up.
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#1419175 - 09/20/15 03:14 PM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: Alan]
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I watched the video... it looks too confusing and cluttered to me...I think I like a nice linear timeline in a DAW better
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#1419190 - 09/20/15 05:22 PM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: bear]
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Aye!

It's going to be quite the learning curve.
The free download is 100% operational.

Like everything else it's getting into the lingo of patches, racks etc.

I'll dip into it now and again and have a play. And i'll also read the documentation. Pretty soon - the penny will drop and I start creating some new sonic/visual artwork on it.

It's a blank canvas DAW - kind of weird to grasp
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#1419193 - 09/20/15 06:01 PM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: Alan]
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Why? What's the point?

Does it allow you to create something you can't with a current stable/established DAW?

Does it sound better?

If no and no....why bother with learning curves. Use whatchoo got, yo. Make some art. I think part of the "issue" DAW makers have run into in recent years is how mature the tech actually is....

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#1419195 - 09/20/15 06:04 PM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: Popmann]
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 Originally Posted By: Popmann
Why? What's the point?

Does it allow you to create something you can't with a current stable/established DAW?


absolutely,
check the video.

think Moog Modular synthesizer, but applied to a DAW/host for virtual instruments/effects.
new ways of working = new sources of inspiration.
it can be an instrument (or instruments), a DAW, a VST host, an effect rack or any combination thereof.
provided you have enough time to learn the thing. ;\)

 Originally Posted By: Alan
Aye!

It's going to be quite the learning curve.
The free download is 100% operational.

Like everything else it's getting into the lingo of patches, racks etc.

I'll dip into it now and again and have a play. And i'll also read the documentation. Pretty soon - the penny will drop and I start creating some new sonic/visual artwork on it.

It's a blank canvas DAW - kind of weird to grasp


Oh Noooo!
Did I not warn you about staying away from this thing?
but people never listen to me.

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#1419206 - 09/20/15 07:26 PM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: Popmann]
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 Originally Posted By: Popmann
Why? What's the point?

Does it allow you to create something you can't with a current stable/established DAW?

Does it sound better?

If no and no....why bother with learning curves. Use whatchoo got, yo. Make some art. I think part of the "issue" DAW makers have run into in recent years is how mature the tech actually is....



Why not? - It's free.

It's a new canvas.

I'm always doing stuff for the sake of making sounds and creating music - you know that's the truth right? \:\)

When not making music, some people watch TV or do cross-words etc - I dip into things like this instead.

It's a bit like renoise. But this is different.

It's truly modular/developmental. You create a gadget (patch) and you can then save it and use it again at any point.



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#1419216 - 09/20/15 07:56 PM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: Alan]
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i'm in the middle of a project right mow but i certainly will give it a look when i'm done.

the demo is a full feature version but has a nag screen like Reaper but there's no time limit to evaluate the demo.
the price is very reasonable if you decide to purchase it.

and it's also portable, which scores a few bonus points for me.
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#1419300 - 09/21/15 01:04 AM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: moontan]
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I decided to at least try it...so I downloaded it

This the most annoying piece of software I have ever tried...it is also the only one I have ever seen crash my RME drivers

It is getting deleted so fast it will make your head spin...

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#1419309 - 09/21/15 01:29 AM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: bear]
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 Originally Posted By: bear
I decided to at least try it...so I downloaded it

This the most annoying piece of software I have ever tried...it is also the only one I have ever seen crash my RME drivers

It is getting deleted so fast it will make your head spin...

ok, annoying, i could understand.
but your driver problems could probably easily be solved by using the virtual ASIO4ALL driver:
http://www.asio4all.com/
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#1419318 - 09/21/15 02:32 AM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: moontan]
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Using the ASIO4ALL driver with RME hardware is about like using a Maserati to pull stumps... it might work, but it is going to look awful silly...

In any case, have fun, all I am saying is this particular piece of software is not something I am interested in using...

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#1419319 - 09/21/15 02:39 AM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: bear]
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 Originally Posted By: bear
Using the ASIO4ALL driver with RME hardware is about like using a Maserati to pull stumps... it might work, but it is going to look awful silly...

In any case, have fun, all I am saying is this particular piece of software is not something I am interested in using...

i completely dig what you're saying bro.

i used to have a Nord Modular synthesizer that was a lot of fun experimenting with but i barely got any music recorded during that time.
i have the feeling this might be the case with this software.
at first glance, it seems like you might need crampons to climb the learning curve. ;\)

but i'm willing to invest a week in that one when it's suitable.
just because the potential is out of this world.
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#1419694 - 09/22/15 09:36 PM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: moontan]
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This is one interesting bit of software.
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#1419699 - 09/22/15 09:54 PM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: Alan]
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 Originally Posted By: Alan
This is one interesting bit of software.



If you have a deviant mind...

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#1533920 - 06/14/17 04:03 PM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: bear]
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i wasn't ready for this a couple of years ago.
now i am!
just pulled the trigger on this!
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#1534412 - 06/18/17 06:41 PM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: moontan]
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ok,

so i've finally figured out how to get this thing going.

the thing is insane!
you can build an EQ and other FX with it, a synth, a DAW, use it as a VST host.
you can control a Artnet/DMX light show with it, having videos play in sync with the audio, SMPTE and MTC, etc
you can do/build probably anything but the kitchen sink.

in the picture below, i'm using Usine to route the output of Spotify into Usine.

the main difference with a DAW is that everything in Usine live inside a "Rack".
in a DAW, your audio/MIDI lives in one section, then is sent to audio fx and/or virtual instruments etc.
in Usine, everything is 'encapsulated' into racks, including your audio, MIDI and videos.
the advantage is that those racks are easily loaded into any project.
also, you are not 'locked' into a traditional DAW workflow where everything is timeline based and sequential.

an empty rack only has the In and Out 'modules', #1 and #6 in the image.
but you can load an audio/MIDI player/recorder in every track, audio effects, Usine's own modules, VST instruments, etc.
# 1, 3 and 6 in the image are Usine modules.
#2, 4 and 5 are VST effects.

the Usine website says that this tool is ideal for live shows.
but it's exactly the associated quickness and workflow that makes it attractive for me in a studio use.
should keep me busy for the next few years.

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“What if your DAW were completely open-ended and modular, allowing you to send audio and control anywhere, and control from any device – including touch?”
Peter Kirn, http://www.createdigitalmusic.com


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#1534461 - 06/19/17 11:37 AM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: moontan]
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i'm selling my license of Studio One Pro if anyone's interested!
let's say half-price. lol
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#1535187 - 06/26/17 08:52 AM Re: Warning to Alan: do not click on this! [Re: moontan]
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Usine 3 just released a few days ago!
the future is now!

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