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#1325697 - 08/26/14 06:07 AM EZ Drummer 2
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One word: WOW! I don't, and have never had the first version. I wanted something that was intuitive, easy to use, and didn't ensure you spent all your time stuck in manuals......this is what was promised by Toontracks.....and it delivers.

How do the drums sound? Excellent. How easy is it to use? Very. Well worth the $170-0dd bucks. Download only, but it's an easy process. Expect to spend an hour or so downloading and then authorising.

The Tap to Find feature is a winner. You just tap in your imagined beat bit by bit; maybe kick first, or hats or whatever, put in your snare etc and then you drop that pattern into the drop box (it's all in the easily-digestible Help menu/manual). The Search gives up patterns that fit by closest %. Take and audition your choices. or, you can do a search using various filters. EZ Drummer 1 owners will be familiar with this latter aspect.

Song Creator uses that suggested pattern you pick and makes up an entire song out of it in the sequencer section; all neatly labelled/coloured and followable.....just like Discrete Drums, not (yeah, I know, DD is getting on and was good for its time)

The new inbuilt sequencer makes it easy to use standalone; no need to get bogged down with other programmes. With no disrespect to those that love computer recording, this is a blessing. Take WAV files straight to my 2480. If you take separately panned drums to separate WAV files and import them into the Roland you can have each on a separate track. Sick of saying 'easy'. For you computer guys you can use it in with your recording programme of choice.

EZ Drummer 1 folks will know how you can manipulate parameters of each drum in each pattern. I'm told the mixer section has had a few tweaks for the better; that word again....easy.

Comes installed with 2 kits; 'vintage' and 'modern', with good kit choices for each. You can mix and match each drum from each of the kits. There is percussion in there too; tambourine, shaker and handclaps. Each has its own ambient miking tracks.

This absolutely craps on Roland's Discrete Drums, in both sound and ease of manipulation. They sound real, are highly tweakable and natural. The Perfect Drummer.

highly recommended.

hope that might help someone. Winner/killer software.

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#1325720 - 08/26/14 08:52 AM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: graemest]
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That's a great review!
Makes me want to start mucking around with creating drum parts on my own again. Maybe I should try these.
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#1325721 - 08/26/14 08:53 AM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: uptildawn]
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it sold me, great write-up. Now if I only had the money.
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#1325827 - 08/26/14 06:23 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: DEMONMASTER62]
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Thanks lads. No affiliation with Toontracks/EZ Drummer.....just a genuinely satisfied customer. Not often one can say with all the corporate hype, aphorisms and promises; it does what they say it will do - 'easy'.

And it turns up on time, doesn't grumble, talk gibberish or expect to be paid thinking it's a musician either. Meet your new drummer!

I wonder if Toontracks could come up with EZ Singer, where they actually help load the gear?

Lovin' it.

cheers, Graeme

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#1326113 - 08/28/14 06:36 AM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: graemest]
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Thanks, G.

Any demos available? Will check.

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#1338957 - 10/26/14 11:43 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: LarryG]
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I can upgrade for $89. ...but I never use the first version...no time...or impatient...I have drum machines...and Roland V drums and assorted percussion...still I know I NEED this....
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#1340758 - 11/01/14 07:07 AM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: Stuart]
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I like the sounds on it. I've been a little frustrated because V2 doesn't seem to work as a plug-in in Reaper, but I'm going to explore that some more and see if there isn't another solution available (such as running Reaper in 64 bit mode, which I haven't been doing).

I do like it though. For me, it's great.
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#1348453 - 11/26/14 12:44 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: flatcat]
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Been watching all the instructional vids on youtube...coming soon..
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#1348930 - 11/27/14 04:05 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: Stuart]
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Great....you'll like it. The add-on MIDI packs of various genres are pretty good too; give you more diversity.

enjoy, Graeme

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#1367974 - 02/03/15 01:57 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: graemest]
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Hey Graeme,
I'm also loving EZ2!
But...I want to send the MIDI info from EZ2 via USB and my M-Audio midisport to my JL Cooper PPS2 and then on to a track on my VS-2480 to "stripe the tape", so I can then reverse the signal path and then I play the song on the 2480 it will kick off the drums on EZ2. Problem is, "Enable MIDI Out" is grayed out on the EZ2 menu. Any thoughts on that?

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#1368038 - 02/03/15 06:54 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: Boots]
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Sorry, can't help you on that I'm afraid: I use EZ2 purely as stand-alone and then import WAVs to the 2480 precisely so I don't have to get involved in all that computer rigmarole.

cheers, Graeme

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#1368069 - 02/04/15 01:44 AM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: graemest]
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Boots: you may need to change your settings to ASIO or to another mode of communication to enable the MidiSport and send MIDI out. Double check the settings and see what it's set to.

Also, you might be able to simply connect the output of your MIDISport to the VS. That I remember (at least on the 1680), "striping the tape" was a little different than recording a track, there was like a special MIDI-only track or something. It's been years since I tried doing that though, so you might need to read the manual on that.
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#1369172 - 02/09/15 05:51 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: graemest]
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 Originally Posted By: graemest
Sorry, can't help you on that I'm afraid: I use EZ2 purely as stand-alone and then import WAVs to the 2480 precisely so I don't have to get involved in all that computer rigmarole.

cheers, Graeme


one of the GREAT things about using EZD as a plugin, is being able to keep the ability to change the drums/arrangement, whatever, AT WILL in the project.

i often re-write drum parts at the very END of all my tracking.....
using the basic arrangment as a 'go-by' until all of my tracking is complete.

all i have to do, is FREEZE the synth rack, and all of the midi data is temporarily written as individual wav files, which i can output as individual tracks, or more commonly, a simple stereo wav file of my drum mix at that time..


then unfreeze, go back in and rewrite any parts i want, then output those files as 24 bit individual wav files,
and mix the whole thing as if i had recorded each and every piece of kit with it's own mic,
including the room mics.

awesome.
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#1381245 - 03/31/15 09:48 AM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: gonzo]
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Gonzo, I thought you used Superior Drummer...do you now prefer EZD2 to SD?
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#1381323 - 03/31/15 02:55 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: Gretsch 6120]
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no i didn't switch.

i have ezdrummer, and superior 2.0....
but i use superior,
didn't see the need to upgrade to EZD2.....

but i like the way ezd2 lets you layout your patterns,
that's cool,
hope they upgrade superior with a similar upgraded interface.

i still prefer the raw 24 bit files i can ouput from superior.
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#1382553 - 04/05/15 11:37 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: gonzo]
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FYI EZ Drummer2 wav files are 24 bit also.
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#1405062 - 07/25/15 07:33 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: graemest]
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EZ 2 is a major upgrade IMO, LOVE it compare to EZ 1, well worth the dough
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#1409686 - 08/13/15 06:35 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: shanabit]
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"I wonder if Toontracks could come up with EZ Singer, where they actually help load the gear?"

How about EZ Groupie(which is redundant)?

Check that. We already have Auto Suck. My ex gave me one to celebrate our divorce.

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#1409710 - 08/13/15 07:57 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: Slabraton]
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Singer helping unload and set up the stage - "Here's my mic."
Singer helping tear down and load for home - "Here's my mic."
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#1410579 - 08/16/15 05:47 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: uptildawn]
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hehehe...excellent Up and Slab!

Perhaps 'EZ Guitar Player'. All it does is slag off what other guitar players have done saying it could have done it better.

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#1410846 - 08/17/15 02:40 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: uptildawn]
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 Originally Posted By: uptildawn
Singer helping unload and set up the stage - "Here's my mic."
Singer helping tear down and load for home - "Here's my mic."



For no particular reason, this reminds me of a singer we had who was so stupid she once stopped in the middle of "Respect" because she couldn't remember how to spell the word. The band fell apart laughing.

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#1410868 - 08/17/15 03:40 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: Slabraton]
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That's a killer! Once had a singer who thought Spinal Tap was real......anyone else got some stories of band hilarities?
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#1411168 - 08/18/15 06:16 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: graemest]
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Perhaps 'EZ Guitar Player'. All it does is slag off what other guitar players have done saying it could have done it better.

Perhaps you've heard the lightbulb joke about how it takes one guitar player to do it and 99 to say "that's not hard. I could do that-if I really wanted to."

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#1411221 - 08/18/15 09:29 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: Slabraton]
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Oh yes, that excellent joke was what that was based on. My other favourites are drummer jokes:

Q what's the similarity between a drummer and a computer?
A they both need the information punched in.
Q what the difference between a drummer and a computer?
A the computer only needs the information punched in once.

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#1419014 - 09/19/15 11:40 AM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: graemest]
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There's the drummer whose timing was so bad that he decided to end it all, throwing himself behind a train....
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#1419328 - 09/21/15 12:25 AM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: Jack_Nelson]
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ROFL

Excellent, haven't heard that one

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#1437199 - 12/17/15 04:52 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: graemest]
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You know the difference between a dead snake in the road and a dead bagpiper?

There are skid marks in front of the snake.

Do you know the difference between a big band and a bull?

On a bull, the horns are out front and the asshole is in the back!

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#1438780 - 12/27/15 03:43 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: Slabraton]
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Excellent!

What do you have if you have a drummer buried up to his neck in sand?

A: not enough sand.

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#1511390 - 12/29/16 03:36 PM Re: EZ Drummer 2 [Re: graemest]
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Hi graemest! I have EZ Drummer 2 and love it! I have been writing the drum parts on EZD2 and then exporting the song to a cd and importing the stereo drum tracks to the 2480.
Now, I wanted to try and import the individual tracks and did the process in EZD2 where I solo'd each track and then exported to a file and then burnt the 5 or 6 files to a cd. But when I import the wav files on the 2480 it only allows me to import one track at a time, and it puts the one file (kick for instance) on 2 tracks...I guess assuming it's a stereo file. So, then I have to use Take Manager to delete each duplicated track and then use Track Exchange to get all the tracks all in a row. Hopefully, there is something I am missing here as this is very time consuming. Thanks man and let me know.


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