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#1527831 - 04/24/17 02:18 AM Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable?
KyleCarpenter Offline
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I posed this question in the 2480 forum .. but thought I would put it here as well as alot of you I know are in the computer DAWs.. and don't really frequent the 2480 forum anymore..

So i am curious.. the 2480 is my first and only experience with "Digital" recording .. And I love my machine.. been having a blast with it.. and learning a lot.. and have a lot to still learn .. And I keep wrestling with weather or not to start putting together a pro tools rig or buy another I.E. more 2480's and become a 2480 lifer ? I would like to get to where I can record well enough and have enough quality to record projects and even Cd's for people .. High radio ready quality.. can that be achieved on the 2480 ? and or is the recording quality and capabilities of the 2480 comparable to the computer DAWS out there like pro tools ??

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#1527841 - 04/24/17 10:16 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: KyleCarpenter]
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You can't really compare the two. The recorded quality output of any computer DAW is heavily dependant on the interface and preamps, which can change drastically. The recorded quality output of a hardware DAW is heavily dependant on the same stuff, but it's "locked". Then too, even comparing just the "processing" aspect, the 2480 is very old tech, so you would be able to easily do a lot of things on most computer platforms that would be hard or impossible on the 2480. All of that could affect the final sound as well.

***Then again, the 2480 was made to make (or at least be capable of making in the right hands) very good sounding recordings, and what sounded very good back then still sounds good today. None of this really matters though because:

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And I keep wrestling with weather or not to start putting together a pro tools rig or buy another I.E. more 2480's and become a 2480 lifer ?


...all hardware will bite the dust and your 2480 (as well as back up units) will too. Parts will become impossible to source at one point and just trying to keep a machine running gets to be more and more difficult. It is an unfortunate fact that the manufacturers gave up on the hardware DAW (at least the really good ones) a long time ago.
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#1527846 - 04/24/17 01:33 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: havlicek]
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John, I've had the same thought as Kyle...my reaction to your last point is this: I'm 61, have done one mini-album of my own and participated in several band CD's. I'd like to record 3-4 CD's worth of material yet. Whether it actually comes out as records, CD's, downloads, I want to do three or four albums before I retire to the rocking chair.

What's likely to break down first - my 2480, or me?

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#1527851 - 04/24/17 02:34 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Eric Collins]
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Willie Nelson is 83. Tony Bennett is 90. Dylan is 75. If you're optimistic, the DAW route seems appropriate. I stopped using my 1680 in 2001 but I'm still doing basic two track recording at age 72.
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#1527852 - 04/24/17 02:41 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: mike gouthro]
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Thats all great stuff Guys .. thanks for the input .. and keep it coming. Much better and insightful answers here then in the 2480 forum. unfortunately.. but I kind of expected as much which is why I re posted it here as well. Your answers and direction are greatly appreciated..
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#1527854 - 04/24/17 03:29 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: KyleCarpenter]
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Living on a VS system since late 90's ... I also have Reaper and ProTools ..since everything chains through the same interface/preamp/speakers === I can not hear a definite difference.

I keep another 2480 DVD model stocked away. A extra formatted HD in a box . Ready when the current one dumps.

As I have stated ::: I treat the 2480 as a 24 channel tape deck ..do very little "modern" editing . Don't really record the youngsters who require the latest magical apps.

Had two clients mixing/tracking this weekend .. but they are in their 60-70's. ... not going to be asking for special- wizardly editing.


Edited by C Jo Go*Crystal Studios* (04/24/17 04:15 PM)
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#1527856 - 04/24/17 03:54 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: C Jo Go]
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Thanks C JO.. thats kind of my school of thought .. I know nothing of the digital recording world.. and the only editing trick I know that I would like to beable to do .. that I don't think I can on the vs 2480. ( ive tried ) is the vocal thickening trick.. of taking 1 vocal track making 6? copies. 1 pan L .6 mil sec early 1 r .6 mil sec late, then 2nd .6 mil. late, r .6 mil sec. early.. an so on.. I couldnt get it to move the track in a minuscule enough movment to get the correct effect.. and not consitant enough as well...

But I am of the old school of thought.. live and actual instruments, etc.. track them with great quality going in.. punch & overdub where needed add tracks and tid bits... etc.. Im thinking of ordering a dvd unit.. as all the DVD units have had the "fix" done in the factory I believe ? If it wasnt for the fact of obsolescence it would be a no brainer for me..

Are the parts from the HD units.. ( what I have now ) interchangeable with the DVD (newer units ) ? also the dvd drive .. if it goes bad .. you can pick up any laptop dvd drive to replace it correct ?

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#1527858 - 04/24/17 04:05 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: KyleCarpenter]
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No, I believe a select DVD for replacement .... but you can check the list on the Planet .
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#1527862 - 04/24/17 04:11 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: C Jo Go]
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I only use REAPER for our two-track mixdown. Pro Tools is only on hand for visiting engineers > tracking with such a DAW \:o I still use external effects for all voice applications.
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#1527864 - 04/24/17 04:20 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: C Jo Go]
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i'd recommend keeping your VS for the time being WHILE you learn about computer recording.
when your VS goes belly-up, you'll be ready.

personally, i would not want to go back to a VS after knowing computer recording.
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#1527865 - 04/24/17 04:24 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: C Jo Go]
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Kyle,
I've heard very good recordings done on the 2480, the better ones were mastered by pro's like Popman, and Falcon Eddie.

The real question is what are you going to do with your recordings? Are going to sell them and try to make money/living or is it just a hobby?

Like all things music it's easy to fall into the "if I only had (insert equipment name) then I'd really be sounding great".

I look at the recordings I make these days as musical pieces in time that someday I'll look back at and fondly remember.

Just my 2 cents,
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#1527874 - 04/24/17 04:59 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Waterman]
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I think Moontan's suggestion of concurrent recording on the 2480 while dabbling with a DAW is good advice.

The 2480 will not hold you back, quality wise. These sorts of things are always better than us. There might be some worries about two areas of the 2480: the buttons get weird and the faders. The buttons can be cleaned once or twice. They start to not work; play, stop, record... The faders are a little scarier. But, I beat the living crap out of my 2480 for a decade, using it in a commercial studio for hire, not just my own stuff.

The 2480 does have a sound. the RDAC gives it almost a tape vibe. the mic preamps are fine. Mastering is tricky but doable. I wouldn't put a lot of money into super fancy preamps until you know you might warrant one. Which is to say, let your ears, product and experience lead you to upgrades more than lust! I know, it's fun. Mics are a different topic..good workhorse quality mics are always a thoughtful expense. I bought A JoeMeek TwinQ preamp with A/D and used that a lot on my 2480. Worked quite well.

Anyhow, if you take outside projects, it's a bit more of a hassle interfacing with how the world works. The CJoGo type studio is pretty rare. File saving, moving, sharing, sending? all sort of archaic and difficult on a 2480. I ran mine well past it's life cycle in a commercial situation. My work was quite good however, especially my producing side. So, I made money with my 2480 about 5 years longer than maybe I should have.

I miss having one box I could bring somewhere pretty easily and record. But, after using a DAW for just less than a year, I could never go back. So, it's been about
Ten now that I've not powered up my 2480. And, I did not want to transition. Kicking and complaining I was forced into the DAW age. But if I was recording things for myself only and had a decent handle on the 2480, it'd be fully capable of satisfying my desires to hear my masterpieces back


PS- I'd warn against copying and delaying tracks for doubling or for creating pseudo stereo. It seems fine whilst sitting at your monitors but it's really making your overall project messy, less distinctly pinpointed in a stereo field and creates artifacts that show up on carrying playback methods.


Edited by motown59 (04/24/17 05:04 PM)
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#1527875 - 04/24/17 05:18 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: motown59]
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So much easier to use DAW than VS machine, IMHO.

Effects, routing, older technology, etc..

I made the leap to LOGIC, as a Mac user. I can't ever say I regretted that for one moment.
You are welcome to come over and see my rig anytime you'd like.

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#1527878 - 04/24/17 05:46 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Marty Gilman]
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Thanks Marty.. I will take you up on that one for sure..=O).... And thanks everybody ... all great advice and direction !!! .. Greatly appreciate everyone's input ..

Waterman - what am I going to be doing with my recordings ??? I would love to eventually record an album of Original material.. also an album of cover tunes... that is "radio ready - studio quality " BUt for myself mostly hobby.. I really enjoy it.. it's just nice playing with what I could have only dreamed of ever having as a younger musician ..

What I would really, really, really like to do in the end .. is a) be "good enough" to make money with my recordings, and get into music publishing..

But use that ability ( studio, equipment, recording quality) to help people who have talent but maybe not the know how or the money to record an album or song or project.. and get it published etc.. and do it for free or at cost at least and help people realize there dream or at least give them a chance at there dream they may not otherwise have in a world where everyone offering as little as possible for the max they can get..

Think I've already told this story once in this forum.. but .. best feeling i've got from music so far to date.. is taking Some Lyrics that a nice lady had written, who didn't know how to play an instrument, sing, arrange.. etc.. she needed a recording.. as someone gave her the hope of the song getting into the hands of a big wig country star / producer / manager.. ( we've all had that someone tell us all who they knew to make us a star ) anyways..

I put an AKG P420 in front of me about 3 ft. read the paper a couple times.. through a little arrangment over it and a G,D,C, chord progression and hit record... did one horrid punch at the end.. played out of time.. mumbled some of the lyrics as I sang them ...lol... and when she heard it.. she teared up loved it.. first time she had heard one of her songs recorded with what she thought to be a radio ready recording....lol.. though I was a little embarrassed of the performance.. to her it was GOLD!!! and to me that was priceless.. So now .. thats what I want to be able to do for others as well... as much as my time and money will permit..

~~~~~~> this is her song.. she still to this day tells everyone about it and raves.. I almost removed it from my sound cloud.. but shes to proud of it.. for me to do so... and is the most played song on my sound cloud....lol..

https://soundcloud.com/user-371608009/get-back-on-your-horse

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#1527904 - 04/24/17 07:24 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: KyleCarpenter]
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The irony of the discussion of "what is better" is that if you are recording on a computer correctly, you aren't really recording on the computer.

First you need a decent preamp and audio interface. It is recommended that you record to a different hard drive than your DAW is on. And the way to avoid latency is to set up a separate monitor system.

These days, I record to a Zoom R8 which records standard wav files. Then it goes into the DAW for post. The Zoom R8 is silent which makes it preferable to a noisy computer for open mic recording.

VS's are for recording. PC's are for porn.

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#1527929 - 04/24/17 09:12 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: motown59]
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 Originally Posted By: motown59




Anyhow, if you take outside projects, it's a bit more of a hassle interfacing with how the world works. The CJoGo type studio is pretty rare. File saving, moving, sharing, sending? all sort of archaic and difficult on a 2480.


Yes, probably only works for me and my "aged" clients. After 20 plus years with the faders and knobs -- would take many a year >> to use a mouse in place of ...

Don't want to retool for a few clients. Have had troubles just this year with collaborations --

96k deliveries ... Garage Band to the VS tracks not aligning ... decided to only do VS data backups now. ;\) Pick and choose your own projects > make it simple. These youngsters need to have more respect for their elders


Edited by C Jo Go*Crystal Studios* (04/24/17 09:13 PM)
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#1527930 - 04/24/17 09:18 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: C Jo Go]
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simple thing to do,
would be to weigh the number of professional recordings released using a vs2480,
against pro recordings released using protools (or logic, or nuendo, or a bunch of others besides protools)

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#1527966 - 04/25/17 12:17 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Bat]
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I'm still using the 2480. About 1/2 of the buttons no longer work and I've had turn the faders off because they had a life of their own (and still occasionally do a flip out on one channel only).

It still does what I need it to do though.
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#1527967 - 04/25/17 12:24 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Andy McClelland]
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THEY ARE GREAT MACHINES.

still have my 1880,
tho honestly, i don't think i could give it away.

when i made the move to a pc-based DAW,
i could not BELIEVE how fast i was up and running,
and how POWERFUL the DAW was,
over the things i just could NOT do with the 1880.

and now, it's a wide open playing field...
i can literally do anything i imagine, as far as manipulating data....
and i never do.

LOL

i use my DAW as a glorified tape machine,
it's super simple, honest and straightforward.


where i gain time, is in individual track setup,
and being able to lay out an entire mix in about 5 minutes.....

and breaking up the tracks into as many sub mixes as i want,
means i can create super complicated mixes super easy,
and never really even think about it.

it's almost like the way i write music,
almost train of thought,
i setup up tracks and send to sub-buses, split up channels and tweak them exactly the way i want them,
and if i want to setup up 10 different mixes of the same song,
it's as easy as "Save As" 10 times.
LOL



i really liked the sound of my first album done with the 1880,
but as i re-mix that album with new versions of the songs,
as i'm doing..... RIGHT NOW.....


it's such a no-brainer to be doing it in a DAW,
it makes me smile.



i could be doing OVER THE MOON radical mixes if i wanted,
but i like the purity of a straight-captured performance for all the bats brew stuff....

everybody else's stuff i work on,
all bets are off.
YMMV

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#1527968 - 04/25/17 12:27 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Bat]
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in other words, kyle,
to answer your question:

i believe the QUALITY of the end result is comparable..

but the process itself?

no contest.


i want the fastest way to get from point A to point B.

and if i want to plug my waves L1 limiter plug on every single individual track of a 56 track song....

i can.

and i will.
LOL

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#1527970 - 04/25/17 12:39 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Bat]
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Cool post gonz. I guess I use the 2480 as a "glorified tape machine" as well. I don't get really complicated in my arrangements. In fact I think I've only ever used all 24 tracks a couple of times. I also have standard templates that I use for tracking (and a few templates for f/x). It usually takes me longer to mic stuff up than it does to get the 2480 set up.
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#1527972 - 04/25/17 12:46 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Andy McClelland]
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well, as i get better at mixing,
i'm getting more adventurous......

the captures, to me, are a personal event.

after that, i sit on the songs for a while,
then come back to them as a 'producer' and try to figure out what the strengths are, if any....


then, i either mix, or re-track.


but the idea of having it so laid out in the DAW,
so easy to see,
so easy to manipulate,

means i can actually do 'arrangements' with pieces of already tracked bits...

and if i like the ideas i come up with, arrangement wise,
maybe i'll go back and re-track the new arrangement,
and play it for real.

it's kinda like using the DAW as both a capture tool,
and an arrangement tool.


i can keep the chopped up bits as 'go-bys', and then learn the new arrangement, and re-track after i learned the new version 'honest'.

LOL

you know what i mean.......

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#1527973 - 04/25/17 12:52 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Bat]
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No denying DAW computer based recording has superior tools, (sort of like your hammer, nail gun analogy). But saying that, I have framed houses 40 years ago using a 20 oz. "Eastwing" hammer that are still standing! Took quite a bit more effort and sweat. By the way I have a compressor and several different nail guns, don't have a roofing nail gun, roofing (I've figured out is for younger fellows.

My question would be what is it you're looking for, I know you said thicker vocals? That sounds like a microphone and preamp issue? If you buy stuff like that even if you switch platforms you still have a good mic and pre.

I'm not defending the 2480, like Andy said it does what I need.

YMMV,
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#1527980 - 04/25/17 01:24 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Waterman]
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Some those listed apps/functions that BAT announced -- I have never had the call to use ( or really aware of ) --- we just don't "manipulate data" much.

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i want the fastest way to get from point A to point B.

We can setup tracks quickly -- because of our templates and presets -- not much is changed in the course > from one client to the next .

Have the same machine we bought when they first hit the market ( had the faders repaired - dropped in a new drive ) and I expect the 2480 to keep doing what it does best > my ultra-simple recording.

Yes, we can us the comp plugin of the VS or one of the effects from our 3 TC racks ,, But we are more a "cookie-cutter" operation .. get it done in budget $ & the deliver a mix the artist is happy with.

SO I guess the 2480 suffices :: for projects within the scope of our clients.

No use buying a nail gun == when your task only requires a hammer


Edited by C Jo Go*Crystal Studios* (04/25/17 01:36 AM)
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#1528007 - 04/25/17 04:57 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: C Jo Go]
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I've been in an arm wrestling fight with the 2480 since I bought it 4(?) years ago. I had no issues with the 1880s. But I could never get over the hump. The machine worked flawlessly, I'm sure. My brain just didnt. The books, videos, help here on the planet did little to get me what was needed.
In 3 months of owning Sonar Platinum, I've achieved more with computer DAW than the entire time I've owned the 2480. While 8 think now that I probably could get something going with the vs, the fight is over.
There seems to be an open freedom when the DAW is staring me in the face. The possibilities are endless. The 2480 (imo) is not.
With all its bells and whistles the 2480 is finite in itself. You want anything more out of it then you go virdis, which in itself means the vs wasn't 'enough'.
That's all fine for those who do that. C Jo seems to have a handle on that. No one's gonna sway someone away from what works for them. And I'm happy for them. I'm happy for anyone who managed to tame the beast.
Sonar has its learning curve, but it seems the same issues side by side with the vs, well it seems like they're much easier to understand.
While I really do wish I could've done something with the 2480, I'm kinda glad now that I didnt. I would never have seen what a computer based DAW can really do. I've yet to record a single song but that's not the fault of the daw, there's been too much other stuff going on to really get down to the business of making music.

You can also look at it this way;
'Some' VS users are moving on to computer based music. How many new VS users are taking their place? Is the VS population growing or shrinking?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and ponder the notion that there will be very few 'hold-outs'. C Go and a few others will have bought up every last VS recorder in existance, while the rest...move on. (A little tongue in cheek inserted here so I don't get burned at the stake)...so it's then that I predict an end to the VS 'wing' of the planet. The young kids are going straight to DAW. It's really only the older guys like me (in general), who have wanted one of these machines who are going to take a stab at it.

I absolutely loved the 1800's. I still own 3 of them.
I cried over the 2480.
for years I was waiting to afford one. Once bought...uugh...
I got the 3 card and all the fixin's, wireless mouse...which even surprised Frank Griffith, saying that I had stumbled upon a truly rare combination. Turned the CD into DVD. Maxed out the hard drive. I loved it, but it wouldn't love me back. Something just didn't click between us.
She's sitting on ebay right now, hoping to be adopted. I really need the money for issues I'd rather not discuss, but i desperatly need to sell it. Still, with the loaded 3 card and all the plugins...you could not add another thing to it to make it better...well, I guess it just adds to the point...how many are still wanting the vs2480?...and how many are investing in computer daws...as we speak?

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#1528008 - 04/25/17 05:15 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: HARDDRlVER]
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HD >> Wish I needed another 2480 -- have all I need in stock.

It must come down to the "style" of music I produce. And no one seems to ask for a specific DAW.. \:o > to my luck.

The Roland is so easy to me -- like coming from a tape deck with a 48 channel board > never really used the plugins >> keep with the outboard gear ++ plus it easily syncs to my dual sequencers = for added tracks.

Once I had a template for every screen/mode/etc I was going to visit .. I was OK with the operation. The 880 & 1680 was mainly difficult because of the lack of a larger VGA.


Edited by C Jo Go*Crystal Studios* (04/25/17 06:31 AM)
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#1528010 - 04/25/17 06:28 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: C Jo Go]
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Happy to see such fair and honest answers here. Thank you, VS-Planet peeps!

I'm another hold-out. But only because I'm broke.

I would love to build a Computer DAW, but don't want Mouse-only. The system I've plotted out would cost several thousand dollars.

I've worked on friends systems - ProTools, Sonar, Cubase.

Pretty easy to get around on. I thank the VS2480 for that, as it contains many of the basic features, if you use the mouse/VGA navigation.

The trick you mentioned, Kyle? Absolutely CAN be done on the VS2480. Whether or not it should be done is another question...

AND, it could be done quicker and easier on a Computer DAW, for sure.

I have a friend who records on a Zoom R16, and transfers the tracks to his laptop running Cubase, where he mixes and applies FX and such.

Works great, for what he's doing. Doesn't sound too bad, either.

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#1528011 - 04/25/17 06:37 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: DAGtunes]
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 Originally Posted By: DAGtunes
Happy to see such fair and honest answers here. Thank you, VS-Planet peeps!



I would love to build a Computer DAW, but don't want Mouse-only. The system I've plotted out would cost several thousand dollars.

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It would be costly for a digital board and someone to "map" it out to REAPER or PT. And the 24 channel interface .Not a lover of a mouse for music production. I have a new PC with both the DAWs loaded.


Edited by C Jo Go*Crystal Studios* (04/25/17 06:51 AM)
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#1528017 - 04/25/17 11:10 AM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: C Jo Go]
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VS = Flip phone

That's for CJO


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#1528031 - 04/25/17 02:11 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Marty Gilman]
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i wont waste time trying to discuss the advantages of DAW's over the VS system.

suffice it say, i'm well versed in VS, that's how i came to this place,
learning, and asking questions.

there really is no comparing at this point,
my DAW sounds so much better than my 1880,
for so many reasons,
and is so far superior in use and power,
that there is no discussion to be had.



all i can say is,

once you go to a DAW, you will not go back.
at least, MOST of you will not.

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#1528050 - 04/25/17 05:03 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Marty Gilman]
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 Originally Posted By: Marty Gilman
VS = Flip phone


I actually still use a Casio flip phone, ha!

Going on 7 years now after countless trips to the cement floor and the ocean... Meanwhile my best friend just purchased his 7th iPhone after glancing at it the wrong way.

Whatever works... or doesn't.



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#1528051 - 04/25/17 05:08 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: wjgypsy]
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 Originally Posted By: wjgypsy
 Originally Posted By: Marty Gilman
VS = Flip phone


Meanwhile my best friend just purchased his 7th iPhone after glancing at it the wrong way.


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#1528063 - 04/25/17 06:04 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Marty Gilman]
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 Originally Posted By: Marty Gilman
VS = Flip phone

That's for CJO


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Yes, the flip phone could be equated to way I use the VS -- It requires very little tech .. flip it open and talk. No touching a screen /texting / menus.

Way simple ... Like the AT&T phone we still have mounted on the wall >> no multi-tasking ~~ just say hello
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#1528069 - 04/25/17 06:52 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Bat]
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 Originally Posted By: Bat
simple thing to do,
would be to weigh the number of professional recordings released using a vs2480,
against pro recordings released using protools (or logic, or nuendo, or a bunch of others besides protools)



We could also include Ampex tape recorders and compare how many hits have been recorded on them.

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#1528071 - 04/25/17 07:04 PM Re: Computer DAW (protools) vs VS2480 is recording quality comprable? [Re: Slabraton]
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 Originally Posted By: Slabraton
 Originally Posted By: Bat
simple thing to do,
would be to weigh the number of professional recordings released using a vs2480,
against pro recordings released using protools (or logic, or nuendo, or a bunch of others besides protools)



We could also include Ampex tape recorders and compare how many hits have been recorded on them.


Think the tape decks would win ... more of the hits I compare ( with clients ) == was tracked from a Studer /Otari /Teac /etc


Edited by C Jo Go*Crystal Studios* (04/25/17 07:17 PM)
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