#1530400 - 05/13/17 05:51 AM
The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Mooseboy
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Wow.
This little bugger is incredible. I just used it tonight for the first time on a gig, and it just rocked. More later.
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#1530411 - 05/13/17 01:52 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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guitartb
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Are you using it direct, or with an amp?
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#1530418 - 05/13/17 05:26 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Liquidirt
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Wow!! I knew you'd love it, even if it's not the big daddy. The Helix from Line 6 has come a long way from the pod. Boss was ahead for a while on pedals. I think the G-3 came out about the same time the Pod came out. The G-3 had way better adjustments on all the effects then the pod.
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#1530465 - 05/14/17 02:50 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Chimp
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Why is this better than your GT - whatever model you have now?
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#1530466 - 05/14/17 03:17 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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I doubt it is better than what I have. VG-88 is what I have and haven't seen anything come close to it, but you have to use a GK pickup.
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#1530471 - 05/14/17 05:03 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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MadGuitrst
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but you have to use a GK pickup.
Only for the emulations.
If you want to use it like a pedal board, you can just use a 1/4" jack.
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#1530477 - 05/14/17 06:14 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Mooseboy
That's "MR. Asshole" to you, buddy!
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Why is this better than your GT - whatever model you have now?
There are a LOT more choices per patch. For instance, the GT-10 has two "CTL" switches on it, which let me kick in two modifiers to any existing patch. Generally, I'd set #1 for gain boost, and #2 for modulation. If I wanted anything different, I'd generally have to build another patch. The Helix has eight modifier switches on it, so can set up a lot more modifiers— pretty much like having an eight pedal board for every patch.
There are eight "setlists" on the Helix. I plan to use one for each band that I play with, which ought to cover it with about two left over for "whatever". Each setlist has room for 128 patches. If I need more than that, I'll start charging a lot more money for my cover bands 
The signal routing is much better, and it has XLR outs, rather than having to use a DI box. I took all of the sounds that I used on Friday with one of my rock bands, and placed a Vox AC15 amp model at the end of the signal chain. I used it in the praise band this morning in that configuration, going directly to House and IEMs, and the result was, if you'll pardon the joke, heavenly.
The freakin' Leslie simulator is to die for. I used it at today, and it just blew me away.
It behaves a LOT more like a real amp when you dial your volume control back.
As far as being "better" or "worse" than the VG-88… well, that's a matter of personal opinion.
The GT-10 is now getting its last data backup, then it'll be reset to factory programs. In a couple of months, I'll take it to GC as a trade in for a new ________ (fill in the blank)
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#1530504 - 05/15/17 01:31 AM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Mooseboy
That's "MR. Asshole" to you, buddy!
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Are you using it direct, or with an amp?
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#1531437 - 05/21/17 10:25 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Are you using it direct, or with an amp? The answer is yes. It goes well both ways… reminds me of one of my old girlfriends
I find using a nice clean tube amp helps. Wadda ya think Mooseboy?
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#1531443 - 05/22/17 01:48 AM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Mooseboy
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LD, I've just been experimenting with the "snapshots" function in the Helix. The Helix is now officially a "cold dead hands" gadget for me, as in, "You can have it back when you pry it from my…"
So, for example, let's say that you have a Mesa/Boogie IV amp simulation with the standard cabinet. Your "Clean" snapshot has the amp at a low gain setting with the Master up rather high, with a touch of chorus and reverb.
You then move to another snapshot (Semi-Dirty) which has the gain up higher, the Master a bit lower to level out the volume difference, ditch the chorus and reverb, and bring in a bit of transistor tape delay at 90 ms. with zero regeneration.
Then of course, you need a (Solo) snapshot, which has more gain, a bit lower Master, an OCD pedal, reverb, and a 450 ms. delay with 40% regeneration.
All of the final levels are controlled by the EXP pedal, of course.
Like I said, cold dead hands
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#1531460 - 05/22/17 03:50 AM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Just seems like my VG-88 cuts through much better through a nice clean tube amp, like a twin. Running it straight through a PA seemed to get lost in the mix during live performances. The tubes gave it a nice warm tone.
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#1531467 - 05/22/17 10:27 AM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Mooseboy
That's "MR. Asshole" to you, buddy!
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Well, there's really two points of view on that…
If you're talking about what you hear onstage, and if you're not running IEMs or a very good wedge/sidefill system, I can see how running direct to FOH would leave you feeling like it's getting lost.
But if you're talking about what's being heard in the house, and your FOH man isn't a total anti-guitar nazi, then the mix might sound just right.
With some bands I play with, I try to cut out as many of those variables by running directly to FOH, keep my guitar mix up in my IEMs, and run an FRFR system onstage at a semi-low level.
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#1532389 - 05/30/17 11:28 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Mooseboy
That's "MR. Asshole" to you, buddy!
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ALL BOW TO THE POWER OF THE HELIX + VARIAX!!
This is amazingly cool in my book. I'm doing a festival with a singer/songwriter next weekend, and one of his songs has a Ricky 12 through a compressor into a clean amp with a good dose of plate 'verb for the intro and verse sections of the song. The chorus and middle eight have a Les Paul through a Marshall with no reverb.
So what does a conscientious Moose do? He connects the Variax to the Helix with a VDI cable (really just a network cable), and dives deep into menuville.
Long story short, I have a new patch for that particular song. Footswitch #1 has a clean Ricky 12 with all the proper accouterments, Footswitch #1 has the Les Paul with all of the correct settings.
This bastard is NOT going back!
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#1532398 - 05/31/17 12:37 AM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Mooseboy
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https://youtu.be/GdNu5vDUvfU
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#1533424 - 06/09/17 01:31 AM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Mooseboy
That's "MR. Asshole" to you, buddy!
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Just got back from rehearsal, and the drummer of the band who has a great ear (he also runs sound and records for other bands) was shaking his head in disbelief about how accurate the Helix sounded.
Yeah, I like this thing.
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#1533425 - 06/09/17 01:38 AM
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Nice!
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#1533430 - 06/09/17 02:14 AM
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The drummer is not allowed to like a guitar amp. If he does, it obviously is underpowered. 
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#1533442 - 06/09/17 04:18 AM
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#1533817 - 06/13/17 02:01 PM
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#1533828 - 06/13/17 03:35 PM
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pbrowne
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moose, have you tried the line 6 HD-500X?
just wondering if it compares at all w/ the Helix - I can't afford a grand but a used one @ $300 maybe.
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#1533840 - 06/13/17 05:33 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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Mooseboy
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moose, have you tried the line 6 HD-500X?
just wondering if it compares at all w/ the Helix - I can't afford a grand but a used one @ $300 maybe.
https://youtu.be/4WivCte2iYI
So the amazing sounds and flexibility are there for sure, I think it just depends on what you're needing from it.
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#1533853 - 06/13/17 07:15 PM
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guitartb
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Pat, I've been using the HD500 for the last few years. Plan to trade up to a Fractal or helix in the next year or so. But the HD has been mostly everything I need for live gigging. The only thing I miss is the speaker pickup interaction on distorted sounds. Going to look at a small full range powered speaker to overcome that part.
Everything on this youtube channel in the link below is the HD500 recorded direct.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzyAQsusaCjpcuz_M4tBvMQ/videos
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#1534205 - 06/16/17 04:35 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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pbrowne
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guitarb, thx for the link. i bought a used HD500 from reverb.com - if i can get 1/2 of the sounds you get i will be very happy.
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#1534409 - 06/18/17 06:06 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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guitartb
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Not meaning to hijack Moose's thread, but It's got a lot of sounds and pretty deep. The presets are not where it's at with the hd500, the best sounds are built from the ground up. Keep refining it till you're happy. It takes some time and on the job tweaking. Be sure to go into the amp edit screen where you can control sag, bias, bias excursion, etc. That stuff will get the response like you want it.
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#1534420 - 06/18/17 08:59 PM
Re: The Helix LT is NOT going back!
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pbrowne
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i promise i'll be bugging you for tips.
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#1534436 - 06/18/17 11:43 PM
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guitartb
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Cool, will send you my whole patch library too, if you want it. Okay now we officially hijacked his thread.😜
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