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#1547540 - 10/15/17 03:54 PM Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards
powermac Offline
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I've got 4 VS8F2 cards in my 2480. I've been reading quite a bit about the VS8F3 cards, and am considering purchasing at least one. I've had decent results with the 2's, but there are some effects that leave me desiring better sound. My mission with the 2480 is to create album quality recordings, which I've already done, but am curious if the 3 card will step up my 2480's game enough to justify the cost.

I'm hoping that some of you that have owned, and recorded with both might give me a real world review and comparison.

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#1547548 - 10/15/17 04:44 PM Re: Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards [Re: powermac]
darksith38 Offline
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Yes i own 3 of them as well as my vs8f-2 in my vs-2480.

I would say they added a lot of extra power to my mixes and tracks
But there getting pretty rare now unless you buy one of them on eBay all together packages some are selling which wont be cheap.

But if you buy a card you will not only need the plugin that is synced to it or a new one or it wont work.

The card by its self does nothing unless you have the plugins,cause i thought they were built in as well as the ones you would add to it at the time like the vs8f-2.

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#1547775 - 10/17/17 12:19 PM Re: Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards [Re: darksith38]
Bran Offline
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I just posted mine for sale in the classifieds if you are ever interested. \:\)
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#1548083 - 10/20/17 12:01 AM Re: Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards [Re: Bran]
keeppracticing Offline
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The plugins are phenomenal and well worth it. Bran's price is excellent (although having Soundblender too is a big deal - it's awesome!!!)
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#1548930 - 10/30/17 04:48 AM Re: Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards [Re: keeppracticing]
ricco Offline
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I like my "2" cards, and get a lot of mileage from them, but as a fairly recent new owner of a "3" card with every plugin, I can say that it was money well spent. It definitely raised the bar for me in terms of quality of recording, and got me inspired to do more and try different things. Of course, there are some plugins I find I use more or like more than others, like SoundBlender, Chrometone Amps, and the Roland 5 plugin bundle.

I bought mine from "keeppracticing"; he had the best deal around for new, and having dealt with the guy I can say it was all above board, and he made it easy for me to buy them. Also, he's not hard to find as he contributes to this site quite often, and knows the plugins from experience.

I highly recommend them, especially if you are talking about upping the sonic quality and palate at your disposal. As I said, nothing against the "2" cards. I love them too, and there's a whole lot more use I could get out of those cards. Myself, I found the "3" cards made it so much easier for me to get better results, faster, and with less hassle.

ricco

Took me a while, but

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#1549278 - 11/01/17 06:44 PM Re: Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards [Re: ricco]
powermac Offline
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Thanks for the info guys.

So if I decide to pony up the money for a 3 card, what's the process for installation? I have an 2480DVD with four 2 cards. In other words, I'm full right now. Obviously I would need to remove one.

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#1549366 - 11/02/17 10:52 AM Re: Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards [Re: powermac]
keeppracticing Offline
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Place the new 3 card into the "A" fx slot on the motherboard, boot up, install a plugin disc, CD-RW MASTERING> PLUGIN INSTALL> follow the prompts> repeat with next disc. Very easy process.

Once you try the plugins you'll quit using your 2 card fx, the plugins are far superior.

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#1549446 - 11/02/17 04:50 PM Re: Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards [Re: keeppracticing]
powermac Offline
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Thanks for the info... So I need to make sure that the card comes with the CD discs. Does each 3 card vary in how many discs it comes with? In other words, are the amount of discs contingent on what plugins come from the seller?

Sorry if I'm pushing a stupid question. Just trying to further educate myself before making the purchase.

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#1549465 - 11/02/17 06:16 PM Re: Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards [Re: Bran]
powermac Offline
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Thanks. Will check it out. Just trying to get my bearings on what plugins are more vital for me.

Edit: I meant this as a reply to "Brans' post above. Tried to delete, but the site won't let me.


Edited by powermac (11/02/17 06:20 PM)

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#1549622 - 11/04/17 06:49 AM Re: Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards [Re: powermac]
Bran Offline
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Basically you need to have either the "Original" disc or the "Backup" disc with the corresponding 3 card. The original is self explanatory but the backup disc need to be created by having the card + plugin installed on the VS2480 and then backed up using the VS2480 disc utilities. If I'm not wrong, it wouldn't work just by replicating the original disc.

What I have in the classifieds are the original and multiple backups in case the original gets scratched or unreadable due to deterioration. Hope this helps.

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#1549644 - 11/04/17 11:45 AM Re: Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards [Re: Bran]
Mutley58 Offline
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My 2480 is loaded with a pair of 2-cards and a pair of 3's. It gives me the best of both worlds.

In my experience the 2-cards are really versatile, sound good and offer lots of mileage in their ability to use half the card for one effect and half for another. Not so with many of the 3-card plug-ins. For reasons of economy & workflow I've learned to print tracks with effects in order to free the cards up for use later on. The old-school method of less decisions at mixdown works for me.

The 3-cards are only as good as the respective plug-in's loaded onto them. I LOVE and always use both the LA2A and 1176 models on every project. IMO they are must-have's. The TC reverb sounds great, as well. Soundblender offers some unique and interesting effects which you just can't create on a 2-card. Although I've used T-RackS mastering in the past I now prefer to master on a PC running mastering software; I get better visibity, more options and results faster. T-RackS is tricky and takes a while to get the hang of but I like it better than the mastering patches on the 2-card. I could live without it now but it's still fine for doing everything on a 2480 if you want or need to.
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#1550003 - 11/06/17 09:02 PM Re: Comparing VS8F2 cards against VS8F3 cards [Re: Mutley58]
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I think the T-Racks (and all of the other plugin) factory presets are fantastic, you can do as much tweaking as you like, but normally don't have to do much.

With the ability to label and store 100 scenes on the 2480, I mix a section, create a scene, print my plugins, then move stuff to v-tracks and press on, then my 3 card is free for the next plugin. If I need to go back and make changes, it's as simple as pulling up the scene, tweak some more, and re-print that part. Very very easy.

2 cards are easier to use, but the sound quality of the 3 card plugins is far far superior.

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