Page 1 of 1 1
Topic Options
#1559535 - 01/26/18 12:35 AM 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!!
keeppracticing Offline
Planeteer


Registered: 07/13/12
Posts: 1116
Loc: Atlanta
We all know the internal VS drives that are compatible, there being a dedicated thread on it, but by any chance does anyone know if any 3.5" 80 pin SCSI drives that can be used in a backup system via SCSI? Or, is lit like the internal IDE drives where there are ones the VS won't play nicely with? IDE drives and SCSI drives are not the same thing. Can anyone name compatible SCSI 80 pin drives they KNOW to be compatible for backup SCSI use?
Top
#1562636 - 02/16/18 11:54 AM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: keeppracticing]
Starliner Offline
Planeteer


Registered: 05/19/09
Posts: 2560
Loc: Florida - Dunnellon
I'm not sure what drives are in the SongVault External HD that was previously available, but they were SCSI. I count 50 pins on the external connector. Maybe there is an adapter that will work? Someone here might have an idea about that.

Starliner
_________________________
Half The Lies They Tell About Me Aren't True!

Top
#1562676 - 02/16/18 02:44 PM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: Starliner]
uptildawn Offline
Planeteer


Registered: 12/15/01
Posts: 7746
Loc: Iowa
the drive inside a SongVault may be a standard IDE drive - probably is, in fact. SCSI drives have usually been much more expensive dollar for GB. If they are IDE, then there's also a bridge card to adapt the IDE drive to SCSI.

The bridge card may be an ACARD 7720U, since it is probably the most common of the few bridge cards I've heard of that work with the VS. They were cheaply available on the used market 10-12 years ago, or so, but then suddenly (in my view) became scarce.
_________________________
uptildawn

2013 Iowa City JazzFest sets!
Dr Lonnie Smith Trio w/Jonathan Kreisberg on guitar
Pharoah Sanders Quartet
Fred Hersch Trio
These are post mixes set to single camera video (by Rich Rauch).

Top
#1562698 - 02/16/18 07:33 PM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: uptildawn]
Starliner Offline
Planeteer


Registered: 05/19/09
Posts: 2560
Loc: Florida - Dunnellon
I'll have to unpack and look inside my SongVault unit to see.

I just know the connector on the rear of the case is 50 pin.

The ACARD 7720U is available, but on eBay it is usually stupidly expensive (I think) for what it really is and does.
I have an empty case for building another songVault, but the cost is prohibitive for something I really don't need right now.

Starliner


Edited by Starliner (02/16/18 07:34 PM)
_________________________
Half The Lies They Tell About Me Aren't True!

Top
#1562751 - 02/17/18 08:29 AM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: Starliner]
uptildawn Offline
Planeteer


Registered: 12/15/01
Posts: 7746
Loc: Iowa
Exactly why I stopped building my own external units - the first acard I got way back about 10-12 years ago (I think) cost me only 35.00 used. The next one ran me over 100 and the last one was over 150. I got that last one new and at a discount.

There's a couple on Reverb for less than 200 right now, but I wouldn't even consider them, myself. It's just too much!
_________________________
uptildawn

2013 Iowa City JazzFest sets!
Dr Lonnie Smith Trio w/Jonathan Kreisberg on guitar
Pharoah Sanders Quartet
Fred Hersch Trio
These are post mixes set to single camera video (by Rich Rauch).

Top
#1562924 - 02/18/18 12:29 PM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: uptildawn]
LeonWatson Offline
Space Cadet


Registered: 08/29/15
Posts: 11
I just paid 135.00 for one!! I'm having problem getting my 2480 to recognize it. anyone have any Ideas Please!!!
Top
#1562930 - 02/18/18 01:14 PM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: LeonWatson]
uptildawn Offline
Planeteer


Registered: 12/15/01
Posts: 7746
Loc: Iowa
You paid 135.00 for what?..... an external hard drive, a SongVault, or an Acard 7720U?

I hope my assumption is an external drive (whether SongVault, or otherwise), so that my suggestion makes a bit of sense.

Is this the only SCSI device you have hooked up, or do you have more than one in a chain?
Is there a CD drive in this unit, or do you have one in the chain (if there's a chain)?
Do you have a terminator block on the second SCSI port on the drive box if it's by itself or the last box in a chain?
Do you know that your SCSI cable or cables are working?
Have you checked to make sure there are no bent pins in the scsi cable(s)?
By "Having problem(s) getting my 2480 to recognize it", do you mean it doesn't recognize it at all, or does it recognize it in the device list but doesn't work, or does it just not work at all?
Does it power up? Can you hear the drive running? Are there working activity lights on it and do they light up?

You need to give us a lot more information.
_________________________
uptildawn

2013 Iowa City JazzFest sets!
Dr Lonnie Smith Trio w/Jonathan Kreisberg on guitar
Pharoah Sanders Quartet
Fred Hersch Trio
These are post mixes set to single camera video (by Rich Rauch).

Top
#1562966 - 02/18/18 08:16 PM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: uptildawn]
LeonWatson Offline
Space Cadet


Registered: 08/29/15
Posts: 11
I paid 135.00 for the rare IDSC21-E adapter scsi to ide. I took the scsi cdr out of my exteral cdr recorder which of course is scsi and put the adapter in so it would read and write on my IDE hard drive.. the drive is running scsi cable is connected from 2480 to exteral to exteral unit with the convertor in it. this is the only unit in the chain. but the 2480 only showing interal IDE and interal scsi dvd. I've been playing with the jumpers but no luck as of yet.
Leon

Top
#1563046 - 02/19/18 12:09 PM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: LeonWatson]
LeonWatson Offline
Space Cadet


Registered: 08/29/15
Posts: 11
I got my 2480 to recognize the third drive with a long delay and it show a 3 after recognizing the main,drive dvd drive. But when it finish loading there is no 3rd drive showing up.it should show a 2nd scsi drive since the new drive is in the external cdr unit. i'm trying to get into my old hard drive that showed error in 1st partition but all the other partition are good
I really need to get a few projects off of it.
anyone out there
know the jumper settings on the IDSC21-E Adapter?
Thanks

Top
#1563062 - 02/19/18 03:21 PM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: LeonWatson]
uptildawn Offline
Planeteer


Registered: 12/15/01
Posts: 7746
Loc: Iowa
Are you saying that you have one external unit that contains both a cdr/dvdr burner and the old hard drive, or are you saying that the old hard drive has been put in the cdr case and the cdr has been removed?

What about termination?....... you hadn't responded to that part of my earlier post.

taking a long time to boot (relative to how long it used to boot) may not be that out of the ordinary. My own external unit with an IDE/SCSI bridge card takes a long time to boot, but it also works fine once booted up.
_________________________
uptildawn

2013 Iowa City JazzFest sets!
Dr Lonnie Smith Trio w/Jonathan Kreisberg on guitar
Pharoah Sanders Quartet
Fred Hersch Trio
These are post mixes set to single camera video (by Rich Rauch).

Top
#1563121 - 02/20/18 08:57 AM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: uptildawn]
LeonWatson Offline
Space Cadet


Registered: 08/29/15
Posts: 11
the old hard drive has been put in the external cdr case. there are jumper wires that went into the cdr burner I took out not sure where to put them on the IDE bridge??
Top
#1563123 - 02/20/18 09:09 AM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: LeonWatson]
uptildawn Offline
Planeteer


Registered: 12/15/01
Posts: 7746
Loc: Iowa
It's certainly possible that those wires you took out and didn't hook up to the bridge may hold the key..... right?

I'd do some research for details on the bridge card connections as well as those wires in the cdr box, if I were wanting it to work...
_________________________
uptildawn

2013 Iowa City JazzFest sets!
Dr Lonnie Smith Trio w/Jonathan Kreisberg on guitar
Pharoah Sanders Quartet
Fred Hersch Trio
These are post mixes set to single camera video (by Rich Rauch).

Top
#1563129 - 02/20/18 09:42 AM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: LeonWatson]
LeonWatson Offline
Space Cadet


Registered: 08/29/15
Posts: 11
in regards to Termination the external burner unit is the only link straight from the 2480. the 4 jumper wires probably need to go some where, but where? if I put the original burner back in and connect the jumper wires back where they come from, the 2480 sees the external burner. and it reads Scsi0 and Scsi1 and of course the main Ide drive. So if I can figure out where to put the jumper wires, I think it will work.
Top
#1563162 - 02/20/18 01:48 PM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: uptildawn]
LeonWatson Offline
Space Cadet


Registered: 08/29/15
Posts: 11
I think you are Right,,I will look into that and if I get it going I will share and give detail for others.
Thank you again for your Help!!
Leon Watson

Top
#1564095 - 02/27/18 01:00 PM Re: 80 pin SCSI Hard Drive help, please!! [Re: LeonWatson]
LeonWatson Offline
Space Cadet


Registered: 08/29/15
Posts: 11
all I'm getting is invalid drive target ..it showing icsi2 Hd
with no size of the drive showing. how do you scan and format drive while vs2480 is booting?

Top
Page 1 of 1 1


Hop to:
Shout Box

Who's Online
0 registered and 94 anonymous users online.
Top Posters
49279
Jazzooo
43828
Al
40001
Silversmith
38309
Timster
32942
Tom Mix
28713
NOK
27054
gonzo
27018
Popmann
26732
Ismellelephant
25691
Doughboy
25130
Mooseboy
24902
moontan
23691
paulb
23556
flatcat
23081
RGR
21941
Marty Gilman
21232
C Jo Go
21125
fonts
20080
Gretsch 6120
19738
fabulousthunderbird
19598
vvvm
19386
String Jammer
18995
glensimonds
18937
Vanillagrits
18923
T57Strat
18894
GAMBLE
18791
Jammer
17733
SteveW
17600
GAWZDigitalUnderground
17522
Geo
17271
Hano
16434
JazAddict
16175
Delso
15818
LakeStone Karl
15154
Liquidirt
15000
Dave Morris
14958
virtualan
14908
kid-surf
14844
Dan Barnes
Forum Stats
20717 Members
30 Forums
133123 Topics
1532421 Posts

Max Online: 226 @ 03/21/16 07:30 AM
Newest Members
Issi, Flinger, BobA, VerticalX, eds
20717 Registered Users

Generated in 0.026 seconds in which 0.02 seconds were spent on a total of 13 queries. Zlib compression disabled.