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#1564599 - 03/04/18 03:25 PM Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
Enda_Reilly Offline
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Hello,

I've been trying to convert from the HDD to an SSD hard-drive and I'm having problems. Firstly thanks Canefire for your videos and thanks to vsplanet for the instructions in the pdf of Franks files.
I have a VS2480DVD and i purchased a SanDisk SSD PLUS 120GB Solid State Drive and the Kitbon 2.5"/3.5" SATA to 40Pin IDE PATA Converter Adapter Card Adapter via dealextreme.

There is a black plastic tab on two pins at one end of the converter, which I initially left on, thinking
that would make it the master, but when I turn the machine on I get SCSI: OK and then nothing else.
When I remove the black plastic tab, I get all the way to formatting the drive but right at the end when
I try to do "quick format" and "no scan" and "10GB" a message comes up to say it failed.

The converter does look different to the one in canefire's video so i wonder is it that? or might the drive i got be
incompatible?

Any help would be great. Thanks.

E
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#1564602 - 03/04/18 03:52 PM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: Enda_Reilly]
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Look for a "manual" for your SSD and assuming you find something, it should describe where that jumper (black plastic tab) should go. There may be more than one configuration for it.

Other than that, I got nothing to add at this point.... best of luck with the mod though.
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#1564671 - 03/04/18 10:11 PM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: uptildawn]
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you have the wrong adapter. You need the exact one that is in my video. People have tried with others and it did not work.

For some reason Roland gear is finnicky about adapters and converters. I think it has something to do with the time of development. My akai gear can use all sorts of adapters for all sorts of different peripherals. Roland needs ver specific items.

So read the description on the video and get the right adapter. Also you need the jumper (little plastic that goes over the metal prongs) to be set to master. It must be on the adapter.

My vs2480s are on OS 2.505 and 2.504 respectively.

here is the name of the adapter...
SATA TO PATA IDE Converter Adapter Plug&Play 7+15 Pin 3.5/2.5 SATA HDD DVD BG


Cheers,
Ian


Edited by I_CaneFire (03/04/18 10:23 PM)

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#1564686 - 03/05/18 02:57 AM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: I_CaneFire]
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Just to reiterate above post...

I did exactly as Ian said in his video and it worked perfectly!

Frank

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#1564687 - 03/05/18 04:19 AM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: croaky]
Enda_Reilly Offline
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Thanks a mill. I just bought a new adapter on Amazon so hopefully that'll do the trick.

Enda
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#1564819 - 03/05/18 11:57 PM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: Enda_Reilly]
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Why are you converting? Is it a speed or capacity issue, to eliminate drive noise, availability of drives? Maybe to transfer files more efficiently to PC?

Just curious about the perceived benefits. Not doing much music at present but maybe some tinkering will inspire me.

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#1564821 - 03/06/18 03:55 AM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: RevBill]
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Hi RevBill,

I'm hoping it'll be quieter. I love the stability of it for recording onto, but the hums from it have always annoyed me a bit. I usually have mics very close by to record myself on guitar and vocal and I have put pillows etc in the way it'd be great if the VS was almost silent. I switched the fan out for a silenz fan a while back as well.

I've been recording onto iPad to Auria with the RME Babyface and that's very quiet but limited track wise and the software can change etc.
E

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#1564836 - 03/06/18 09:53 AM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: Enda_Reilly]
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Thanks, hope it works out for you. It’s definitely not yhe quietest machine though honestly my recording issues have more to do,with my technique.
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#1564872 - 03/06/18 04:48 PM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: RevBill]
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Ian,

What is the link to the video you mentioned, or what post?
Thanks.

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#1565190 - 03/09/18 01:19 AM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: Starliner]
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I've bought 3 SATA converters. One (from France) is exactly like the one in the video. None of them have ever worked.
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#1565204 - 03/09/18 08:58 AM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: Cantsleep]
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 Originally Posted By: I_CaneFire
you have the wrong adapter. You need the exact one that is in my video. People have tried with others and it did not work…

So read the description on the video and get the right adapter…

here is the name of the adapter...
SATA TO PATA IDE Converter Adapter Plug&Play 7+15 Pin 3.5/2.5 SATA HDD DVD BG
Cheers,
Ian


Unfortunately and as with some other adapter/mod components tried for the VS, the problems people like Cantsleep has had (tried 3,… even one exactly “like”…), may be due to the item NOT being the exact brand, model, model, version, or even batch as the item given by CaneFire.

I was going to suggest that CaneFire should give the exact mane brand and model – even version – if he could find it on the packaging, or on the card, but I don’t think that this information could be enough sometimes.

As with the SD card adapter I myself used in a mod for the 1680 and people have been chasing about for a few years with little to no success, even when the card looks identical and is sold by the same seller, it is often not the same at the component level as manufacturers update their product from time to time and maybe more often today, switch out components on the card with more readily available and/or cheaper versions in order to keep costs down, or simply in order to continue to offer the product.

I imagine that in the average computer, these changes don’t usually matter and the items work just fine…. But this is the VS….. Sometimes things apparently need to be “exactly the same” and not “exactly like”.
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#1566044 - 03/14/18 04:24 PM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: uptildawn]
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Hi,

I would also suggest trying to change the ssd to a intel 520 120 gig drive, they tend to work well,.

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#1567131 - 03/24/18 06:23 AM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: GazLowe]
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Hello again,

Thanks for the input. I bought the closest to what iancanefire said and it arrived just the other day, but alas it still doesn't work. I notice that there's a square chip in the centre of the board but in Ian's video that looks like a circular disc. The package also had "Windows Vista" on it which didn't inspire me.

Also when the jumper is set to master I get no response at all at startup but when the jumper is on slave it lets me try a format and then just fails. Cruel.

Could it be that the one I have needs a driver and is not "plug and play"( or standalone or class compliant) whereas iancanefire's is? The problem as mentioned by uptildawn is getting the right model.

Perhaps like Gazlowe said, the ssd is the problem so I'll have a look and see how much an Intel 520 120gb is. The other difference is my VS2480 is the CD upgraded to DVD model not the HD.

Right now I just put the old hard drive back and I'm reformatting it so I can get a fresh start and stuck in to starting a new album. As always I'll keep the pillows on standby to reduce the hard drive whirr. I have some external compressors and eq that I want to be able to use and the VS has nice routing capabilities so hopefully I can get cracking soon.

Thanks again
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#1567132 - 03/24/18 07:50 AM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: Enda_Reilly]
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Hi,
This is so sad to hear. Someone contacted me regarding my youtube video stating that the picture in the beginning of the video is not the same adapter as the one actually used.
I took that picture from the ebay page of the sale. So the picture didn't match the product. However it was the description of the product that led me to the purchase not the picture. THe picture did not have the jumper.

I think I need to open my vs2480, take out the adapter and do a video with a magnifying glass. At least this way people will have a good close look at both sides of the correct adapter that worked for me and a few others.

Are all the people having trouble in the US or Europe? I wonder if the part has compliance issues.
Thanks
Ian

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#1567165 - 03/24/18 04:55 PM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: I_CaneFire]
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Looking forward to the new video. Thank you.
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#1567217 - 03/25/18 11:28 AM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: Cantsleep]
Enda_Reilly Offline
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I'm in Europe. I bought on Amazon from Universal Color, who have a US address but the pakage came from China.
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#1567245 - 03/25/18 03:30 PM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: Enda_Reilly]
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I just had a look at Ian's videos again and I think it's just a QC sticker his has that mine doesn't.
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#1568748 - 04/11/18 03:11 PM Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD [Re: Enda_Reilly]
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Thanks to Ian for making another close up video. https://youtu.be/wUw0n2JIfk0 The adapter I have is exactly the same as far as I can see. JP103-5. The slave pin on my adapter is angled slightly but that was the only difference. Even the large chip looks exactly the same round the edges.

So that means I should try a different ssd (look at Tin Mans comment on Hard drives below the video, very interesting) or else it just doesn't work on the VS2480CD/DVD model. The hooking up internally is quite different to the HD model so it's a possibility. Has anyone with the CD model got this to work?
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