#1614576 - 05/27/19 01:47 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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369
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I finally got the right ssd to work with my VS2480 DVD. I bought a Samsung v-nand 860 EVO 250 GB, as advised by fratje, and it worked with both IDE to SATA adapters: the one he told and JP103-5. The VS recognized the drive right away and then I get it formated with physical format and surface scan both OFF. Now I will try external SCSI as soon as I receive the adapter.
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#1614577 - 05/27/19 01:51 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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369
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Hi fratje. I finally got it to work. Thank you so much for your advise.
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#1614926 - 05/29/19 08:48 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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frotje
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You're welcome!
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#1617521 - 06/17/19 08:43 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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slingacat
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I'm in the process of trying to update my VS-2480CD from version 2.50 to version 2.504 so that I can then install a DVD. Once the DVD is installed and working, backup all of my data, and then upgrade to a 120GB SSD. Did any of you have problems getting the Roland to go into "update mode" when putting in the CD with the new ISO ? Having re-downloaded, re-extracted, and re-burned the image file to CD twice, I still cannot get into update mode even after following the instructions (from Roland and from members) to the letter. Please help if you are able! Thank you very much, Don (slingacat)
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#1617531 - 06/17/19 10:44 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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slingacat
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Please disregard. After erasing all of my downloaded images, and starting all over again, I was able to follow the steps and update my unit to v2.504. Next steps, install a DVD drive, back up files, then install the 120 GB SDD. Thanks for you patience, and sorry for the false alarm.
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#1619741 - 07/01/19 06:50 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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Cantsleep
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I now have 5 IDE to SATA adaptors and 2 SSD cards. Only one adapter is recognized by the VS but will not format. I'm wondering if there is some setting in the VS preventing these from working.
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#1628138 - 09/03/19 04:19 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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B#
Mo
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Hey, any luck/update with using SSD's internally in a VS2480CD/DVD, both internally and externally (using the 2480's SCSI port) ?
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#1628264 - 09/05/19 05:52 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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FalconEddy
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Hey, any luck/update with using SSD's internally in a VS2480CD/DVD, both internally and externally (using the 2480's SCSI port) ?
No, I thought all of that was fully resolved, at least internally.
The 2480 system is SCSI. Roland primarily used that platform because it was cheap technology. Save money on the design.
The internal hard drives on oh the HD, CD, and DVD models are all IDE. The original version (HD) uses a hard drive caddy to mount the drive in it which connects to a SCSI to IDE conversion board. The end of that drive caddy slides and soft-docks into a SCSI connector. Then locked into place by placing a screwdriver into a slotted-type, 1/4 turn, latching mechanism.
The CD and DVD model hard drives (which came from the factory TWICE the size of the HD model's drive;are housed in an metal encasement underneath their CD-RW's or DVD-RW's drive, and are both IDE. They utilize basically the same SCSI to IDE conversion board as the HD model.
However, the CD-RW and DVD-RW burners are both SCSI. You'll need to bear this in mind if you plan to upgrade your CD model to a DVD model. A rather simple upgrade.
Now, as far as the SSD conversion goes, they're using a SATA TO PATA IDE converter cdapter Plug&Play 7+15 Pin 3.5/2.5, with either RDX 629A 2008 printed on the board, or preferably, JP-103-5.
This is being used in conjunction with one of two currently acceptable (hence working on 2480 OS v2.504) SSD cards:
1) Samsung 860 Pro 256GB 2.5' SATA III internal SSD (MZ-76P256BW) using V NAND technology.
2) Kingston (SV300S37A) 120GB SSDNow V300 Series 2.5" x 7mm internal SATA III also using V NAND technology.
Since the 2480 is limited to only recognizing around 126GB anyway, you first, best destiny MAY BE to go with the Kingston SSD drive. This was researched and implemented by Planet user canefire.
But, he has a 2480HD.
Are you concerned about having an internal drive you can't get to without opening your unit?
What's the issue?
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#1628276 - 09/05/19 02:11 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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B#
Mo
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Hey, any luck/update with using SSD's internally in a VS2480CD/DVD, both internally and externally (using the 2480's SCSI port) ? SSD conversion: SATA TO PATA IDE converter cdapter Plug&Play 7+15 Pin 3.5/2.5, with either RDX 629A 2008 printed on the board, or preferably, JP-103-5. Being used in conjunction with one of two currently acceptable (hence working on 2480 OS v2.504) SSD cards: 1) Samsung 860 Pro 256GB 2.5' SATA III internal SSD (MZ-76P256BW) using V NAND technology. 2) Kingston (SV300S37A) 120GB SSDNow V300 Series 2.5" x 7mm internal SATA III also using V NAND technology. Are you concerned about having an internal drive you can't get to without opening your unit? - NO CONCERN IN THIS AREA FALCON. What's the issue? - THIS THREAD CAUGHT MY EYE AND INTERESTS ME IN GOING TO SSD DRIVES NOT ONLY FOR INTERNAL BUT ALSO FOR AN EXTERNAL BACKUP SYSTEM. - I CURRENTLY USE A SONG VAULT (WITH 3 CARTRIDGES) THAT I USE FOR BACKUP. EVERY ONCE INA WHILE THE SONG VAULT GETS A LITTLE TEMPERMENTAL IN STARTING EACH BACKUP DRIVE AND SOMETIMES COMING READY. SO, BEFORE I GET TO A POINT WHERE THE SONG VAULT BECOMES UNRELIABLE OR NOT WORKING, I WANTED TO GO AHEAD WITH A SOLUTION TO REPLACE THE SONG VAULT WITH A SCSI TO SSD SOLUTION. WHEN I HAVE THAT UP AND RUNNING,THEN I'D LIKE TO REPLACE BOTH MY VS2480DVD INTERNAL DRIVES WITH SSD. RIGHT NOW, I'M AT THE POINT IN TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PARTS I NEED TO REPLACE THE SONG VAULT AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE PARTS I NEED FOR THE INTERNAL DRIVE REPLACEMENT. THANK YOU FOR NETTING THIS OUT FOR THE EXACT PARTS NEEDED FOR THE INTERNAL SSD CONVERSION. LIKE YOU MENTIONED THO, THE PARTS USED FOR THE INTERNAL WAS ON A 2480HD. YOU ARE ALWAYS THERE FOR ME FALCON...THANK YOU SIR ! p.s. Sorry for the "caps"...I'm not yelling, just making my response stand out forya mate. . . Falcon
Edited by B# (09/05/19 02:13 PM)
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#1628316 - 09/05/19 11:41 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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FalconEddy
Retired Mastering Marvel
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Mo, bear in mind this is all from memory, but I'm confident it's correct.
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#1628427 - 09/07/19 02:05 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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FalconEddy
Retired Mastering Marvel
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Mo, there's also a 128GB Samsung SSD that works.
I'm pretty sure it's a 2.5" 128GB SSD (SATA III - 6.0Gbps) P/N MZ7PC128HAFU-000H1
Model MZ-7PC1280/0H1
Second barcode from the top was HP P/N 675546-001
You can get them cheap on ebay used, $15 to $25.
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#1628665 - 09/09/19 03:24 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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B#
Mo
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Mo, bear in mind this is all from memory, but I'm confident it's correct.
. . Falcon
I appreciate that Falcon, I may order some parts and see if I can get them working also. As I mentioned, my main interest was finding a solution for an external SCSI to SSD, using the VS's external SCSI port. Appreciate it mate ! Mo
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#1628791 - 09/10/19 05:10 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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FalconEddy
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I appreciate that Falcon, I may order some parts and see if I can get them working also. As I mentioned, my main interest was finding a solution for an external SCSI to SSD, using the VS's external SCSI port. Appreciate it mate ! Mo
Yes, I knew that, but was waiting for this reply of yours before I went any further.
Now, what you'll need to do is acquire an older external 50 pin SCSI hard drive unit. There were tons of them made in the 80's. I have a couple of 100MB Microtech's that I pulled out the old SCSI drives and replaced them with 16GB SCSI drives.
I'm going to work on this project for you after I get my SSD's and adapter cards. It'll still need some type of transition cabling. I already have a male x male SCSI to IDE adapter, so I'll try working with that one first.
Also have ACARD setup and removable drives, etc. to play with.
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#1628811 - 09/10/19 01:36 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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B#
Mo
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I appreciate that Falcon, I may order some parts and see if I can get them working also. As I mentioned, my main interest was finding a solution for an external SCSI to SSD, using the VS's external SCSI port. Appreciate it mate ! Mo
Yes, I knew that, but was waiting for this reply of yours before I went any further. Now, what you'll need to do is acquire an older external 50 pin SCSI hard drive unit. There were tons of them made in the 80's. I have a couple of 100MB Microtech's that I pulled out the old SCSI drives and replaced them with 16GB SCSI drives. I'm going to work on this project for you after I get my SSD's and adapter cards. It'll still need some type of transition cabling. I already have a male x male SCSI to IDE adapter, so I'll try working with that one first. Also have ACARD setup and removable drives, etc. to play with. . . Falcon
Alrighty, I'll find an external 50 pin SCSI hard drive unit. Looks like there's plenty on eBay.
Would it be best to create another thread on this Falcon...let me know and I'll do that for us ? That way we don't disrupt the initial concept on this thread. You're the best !
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#1628922 - 09/11/19 02:58 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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FalconEddy
Retired Mastering Marvel
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I appreciate that Falcon, I may order some parts and see if I can get them working also. As I mentioned, my main interest was finding a solution for an external SCSI to SSD, using the VS's external SCSI port. Appreciate it mate ! Mo
Yes, I knew that, but was waiting for this reply of yours before I went any further. Now, what you'll need to do is acquire an older external 50 pin SCSI hard drive unit. There were tons of them made in the 80's. I have a couple of 100MB Microtech's that I pulled out the old SCSI drives and replaced them with 16GB SCSI drives. I'm going to work on this project for you after I get my SSD's and adapter cards. It'll still need some type of transition cabling. I already have a male x male SCSI to IDE adapter, so I'll try working with that one first. Also have ACARD setup and removable drives, etc. to play with. . . Falcon Alrighty, I'll find an external 50 pin SCSI hard drive unit. Looks like there's plenty on eBay. Would it be best to create another thread on this Falcon ...let me know and I'll do that for us ? That way we don't disrupt the initial concept on this thread. You're the best !
Sure, why not.
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#1629032 - 09/12/19 02:46 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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Mo
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#1629196 - 09/14/19 11:14 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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croaky
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I have the correct converter,JP-103-5, jumper set to master the Kingston (SV300S37A) 120GB SSDNow.
When I turn on the VS I only get SCSI...OK
Any ideas?
This is my second try at converting to SSD first one worked! All the same bits.
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#1629684 - 09/20/19 07:14 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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RickD
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How did it go? I too am interested in some solution, preferably external & SSD based, for 2 reasons : - no more HD noise - swap the SSD into a USB adapter connected to the PC for quick track import.
Not interested in mixing inside a PC, but there are phase-aligning plugins that i think can be great, so the idea is to export to PC, then reimport to VS.
Any suggestions on how to achieve this would be highly appreciated. :-)
Thanks
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#1631601 - 10/07/19 02:23 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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DCMProductions
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Registered: 09/23/19
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I did as well, and it hasn't worked perfectly. I have two of those PATA to SATA converters just in case one was bad, and I can't get it to see the SSD anymore. It saw it originally, but then hung during the format. I have a new SSD and it doesn't see this one at all.
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#1631602 - 10/07/19 02:25 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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DCMProductions
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Registered: 09/23/19
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I get the same exact thing. I just ordered a different SSD and will see if that changes things for me. This really shouldn't be that difficult.
Kudos to everyone who has been successful!
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#1631621 - 10/07/19 06:17 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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FalconEddy
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croaky, if you're using ALL THE SAME COMPONENTS, then YOU need to perform some troubleshooting to see what's different.
Is the JP-103-5 bridge adapter bad?
Is it getting power?
Did you remember to plug it in?
Are the Kingston V SSD pins ALL making contact with the bridge adapter?
It appears that the initialization screen stops right after getting OK for SCSI, and just sits there waiting for a response for IDE, and scanning the bus for alpha-numeric info on the third and final step, correct? (E.G. I....4..V)
Is your Internal SCSI SELF ID set to 7 ? Go to UTILITY > SYSTEM PARAMETER and click 'Param2' on the bottom left. The top two lines in the 'DRIVE' area will reveal if you have the IDE DRIVE parameter turned ON , and what the SCSI SELF ID is (# 7 is chosen at the factory).
How did it go? I too am interested in some solution, preferably external & SSD based, for 2 reasons : - no more HD noise - swap the SSD into a USB adapter connected to the PC for quick track import.
Not interested in mixing inside a PC, but there are phase-aligning plugins that i think can be great, so the idea is to export to PC, then reimport to VS.
Any suggestions on how to achieve this would be highly appreciated. :-)
Thanks
We'll attempt to give you what we can for what we're working on, but you need to realize that an SSD (within a USB enclosure) is not something that's being considered for testing.
That's a plug & play concept, and would require an ENTIRELY different type of engineering. Sorry, RickD.
I did as well, and it hasn't worked perfectly. I have two of those PATA to SATA converters just in case one was bad, and I can't get it to see the SSD anymore. It saw it originally, but then hung during the format. I have a new SSD and it doesn't see this one at all.
I get the same exact thing. I just ordered a different SSD and will see if that changes things for me. This really shouldn't be that difficult.
Kudos to everyone who has been successful!
DCMProductions, Welcome To The Planet!
One of the most critical key items when submitting information in a thread such as this one, is to give specific details to help the engineers such as myself and others, to perform a more proficient job in assisting end-users like you with problem resolution.
I've been here on the VS-Planet for 18 years, not signed-up as long as some of the original founding members back to 1999; but, there are several of us that are highly technical and know this machine with its hardware inner workings and Operating System very well. We've flushed out more bugs on this thing since its inception, than the Terminix® man. Version 2.504 and v2.505 are pretty stable, and a LONG WAY from v 1.009.
But, I digress...
When you state, "I did as well, and it hasn't worked perfectly. I have two of those PATA to SATA converters just in case one was bad, and I can't get it to see the SSD anymore. It saw it originally, but then hung during the format." ; you said those things without any details.
1) What did you do, as well?
2) Which model bridge adapter did you use? I saw it, JP 103-5. But the jumper MUST be on MASTER
3) Which model SSD did you try?
4) What OS are you running? (need all four digits) (E.G 2.504, 2.505, 2.010)
5) When you were formatting and it 'hung', what type of formatting were you performing? Quick? or Full Physical Format? Did you turn on Surface Scan in error?
6) How long did you wait while it was 'hung' during formatting before you broke out of it? I saw it, 9 hours.
7) "I get the exact same thing" . As whom? What is it?
8) What brand and specific model number SSD did you order?
9) YES, IT SHOULD BE THIS DIFFICULT.
You have to take into consideration you're still utilizing:
1) Obsolete technology which was considered disposable technology approximately 5-6 years after it was released. Seven at the outset.
2) A recording system that's 14-18 years of age (depending on your model) standard components such as resistors, capacitors, transformers, diodes, switches, sliders etc., have either begun to fail, or have possibly had a change of value; thus changing the voltages being presented at different operating points on the main board, as well as the other boards and switchable power supply.
This also includes key IC's that are responsible for AD conversion and back to DA conversion again.
3) Expecting to chart new territory by replacing known working IDE series hard drives with host bridge adapters and a Solid State Drive combination. All completely unsupported by the Roland Corporation. Obviously, so was the ACARD, hot-swappable drive storage system designed by Brett LaCroix, and VirDis wave file tranfers direct to the PC from Bill Casey. But, it took a lot of research, time, and investment funds to obtain those goals.
Now, you can't use newer model SSD's, they won’t work, in fact the newest SSD that works is the Samsung 860 PRO 2.5" SATA III 256GB Model MZ-76P256BIN with the JP 103-5 host bridge adapter (SATA to IDE (PATA) converter). However, the VS2480 series recorders will only recognize and format 128GB of any drive larger than that size. End-user were using 160GB drives in the CD and DVD versions of the 2480, and only 128GB formatted; eleven 11.5GB partitions and one 2GB partition. Yes, I know that’s 128.5GB total.
Everyone please get back to me with your answers and I'll do my best to assist.
croaky, looks like the balls in your court on this one for checking what different. I'd even swap the other known working JP 103-5 adapter with the new SSD to see if THAT works. Those types of switch-out help to identify bad hardware, after the setup on the 2480 UTILITY section has been verified first.
. . Falcon
Edited by FalconEddy (10/08/19 06:46 AM)
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#1631833 - 10/09/19 12:41 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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DCMProductions
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Registered: 09/23/19
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Thanks. I did all of that troubleshooting. I found it was indeed getting power, I verified the jumper was in the right position, the SSD was fully seated.
I was using a Kingston 120GB SSD
My OS is 2.505
Everything is working with a different SSD. I used a Samsung EVO, 250GB
David
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#1631849 - 10/09/19 05:21 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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FalconEddy
Retired Mastering Marvel
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Thanks. I did all of that troubleshooting. I found it was indeed getting power, I verified the jumper was in the right position, the SSD was fully seated.
I was using a Kingston 120GB SSD
My OS is 2.505
Everything is working with a different SSD. I used a Samsung EVO, 250GB
David
Outstanding David!
Yeah, the 860 EVO is an excellent choice. The 860 Pro may have worked also; but the EVO is a sure thing. I'm using all Samsung 128GB SSD's.
I was going to have you throw the Kingston on the other working JP 103-5 that's paired with the SSD that works. If it had any issues on THAT adapter, it would definitely point to the Kingston SSD as the problem.
People have started reporting them as able to be seen with the jumper on 'slave', and sometimes getting to the scanning stage, but I prefer the reliability over two continents of the paired JP 103-5's with the Samsung 860 EVO 256GB model MZ-76E250B/AM, or the Samsung 126GB model MZ-76PC1280/0H1.
Awesome job getting resolution on your own.
Oh, did the drive format really quickly? I've heard that 2480's v2.505's OS simply SCREAMS when formatting drives now. Minutes instead of hours.
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#1631880 - 10/09/19 05:21 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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DCMProductions
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Registered: 09/23/19
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Super fast format, so fast I thought there was a problem, but then I looked and saw 12 11.5GB partitions.
Recovered some of my previous projects and it works perfectly!!
As for the jumper, yes, it must be Master or you run the risk of instability. I actually got it to see my Kingston SSD WITHOUT a jumper, which I knew was a recipe for disaster if it worked.
I did try the Kingston on the KNOWN good JP103-5, but to no avail. Something is just not compatible with that Kingston. Crazy, but happy with the EVO and how everything is working now.
Thank you!
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#1635708 - 11/15/19 01:14 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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RickD
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After trying a PNY 240GB and a Kingston 120GB in vain, i ordered a Samsung EVO 860 250GB SSD. It works great with my VS-2480CD. Conversion done : Silent fan DVDR SSD. 👌🏻😎👍🏻
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#1664140 - 06/06/20 06:49 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
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Chromatic
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Sorry to bring up an old topic. I am trying to upgrade to an SSD on my VS2480 HD It says it is formatting but the indicator does not move for hours. Any advice wold be much appreciated, It shows it is IDE but no name or size
Tom
Here are my detarls: 1) What did you do, as well? See above
2) Which model bridge adapter did you use? JP 103-5. The umper is on MASTER. I tired two different ones.
3) Which model SSD did you try? EVO 250 GB
4) What OS are you running? 2.504
5) When you were formatting and it 'hung', what type of formatting were you performing? Quick. Did you turn on Surface Scan in error? No
6) How long did you wait while it was 'hung' during formatting before you broke out of it? 14 hours.
7) What brand and specific model number SSD did you order? Samsung 860 EVO 250GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E250E)
Edited by Chromatic (06/08/20 07:16 PM)
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#1664901 - 06/12/20 02:51 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480 HD to SSD
[Re: Enda_Reilly]
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Chromatic
Space Cadet
Registered: 09/25/17
Posts: 21
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Anybody have any ideas? Sorry to bring up an old topic. I am trying to upgrade to an SSD on my VS2480 HD It says it is formatting but the indicator does not move for hours. Any advice wold be much appreciated, It shows it is IDE but no name or size
Tom
Here are my detarls: 1) What did you do, as well? See above
2) Which model bridge adapter did you use? JP 103-5. The umper is on MASTER. I tired two different ones.
3) Which model SSD did you try? EVO 250 GB
4) What OS are you running? 2.504
5) When you were formatting and it 'hung', what type of formatting were you performing? Quick. Did you turn on Surface Scan in error? No
6) How long did you wait while it was 'hung' during formatting before you broke out of it? 14 hours.
7) What brand and specific model number SSD did you order? Samsung 860 EVO 250GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E250E)
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#1693132 - 11/22/20 03:57 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480 HD to SSD
[Re: FalconEddy]
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Chromatic
Space Cadet
Registered: 09/25/17
Posts: 21
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Hi Faclcn Eddy,
Question: will a UJ 825 C work in a VS 2480 CD? It shows it is an Apple replacement. I can buy a new one quite reasonably. if not, do you have a recommendation?
Many Thanks,
Tom
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#1693174 - 11/22/20 07:48 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
[Re: FalconEddy]
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Chromatic
Space Cadet
Registered: 09/25/17
Posts: 21
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Hi Faclcn Eddy,
Question: will a UJ 825 C work in a VS 2480 CD? It shows it is an Apple replacement. I can buy a new one quite reasonably. if not, do you have a recommendation?
Many Thanks,
Tom
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#1693196 - 11/22/20 09:04 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
[Re: Chromatic]
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dkfackler
Planeteer
Registered: 04/24/06
Posts: 705
Loc: Coventry, OH, planet Thulcandr...
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Tom:
Here is a list of known compatible drives. It hasn't been updated in quite a while. ----------------------------------------------------- Here is a list of the working drives: JVC -- XR-W2010R2626 XR-W2040 XR-W2042 ***
TEAC -- CD-R55S CD-R56S CD-W512SB
RICOH -- MP6200S-- didn't work for me.
PLEXTOR QPS -- CD-R PX-R412C CD-R PX-R820T CD-R PX-W4220T (recently reconfirmed) CD-R PX-W8220T (recently reconfirmed) CD-R PX-W124TS (recently reconfirmed) CD-R PX-W8432T CD-R PX-W1210S (recently reconfirmed) CD-R PX-W1210TSE
Internal(?) on the VS-2000CD, -2400CD and -2480CD MATSHITA -- UJDA330 UJDA340
UJ-870 & UJ870QJ REPLACES: UJ-811, UJ-811B or -B, UJ815, UJ-815, UJ-815B; UJ825, UJ-825, UJ-825-B; UJ-830, UJ-830B, UJ835, UJ-835, UJ-835-B, UJ-840-S, UJ845, UJ-845, UJ-845-B, UJ-845-S or UJ-845S,and UJ-85JS and UJ-850
Arjan van gog on VSP, used a UJ-875 BXM Master DVD Burner and it worked.
ONLY THE 2480CD/DVD MODELS CAN USE THE DVD AS THERE WERE SYSTEM UPDATES TO ADD THE DVD CAPABILITY. -----------------------------------------------------
You will see that the UJ-825 and -825B are listed. My guess-- and it's only a guess-- is that the "C" would work. Be aware, though that the firmware MUST be set to MASTER. AFAIK, this can't be done by the user. I be very happy to be proven wrong!
~dk
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#1693258 - 11/23/20 11:40 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
[Re: Chromatic]
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FalconEddy
Retired Mastering Marvel
Planeteer
Registered: 10/16/01
Posts: 10577
Loc: Litchfield, NH, USA
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Tom, I would be taking a WAG, but I'd tend to agree with dkfackler.
On a side note, I've written before about SSD's and their w-i-d-e & varied success/failure stories. Even if you DO get one to work, there is nothing carved in stone that ensures it will continue to function properly.
It's no more a reliable recording/storage medium than a multi-disc, Roland supported (prior to obsolescence) hard drive. Perhaps even less so.
Now, there ARE ways to workaround having the original VS-2480HD, and wanting to convert it to a DVD model. This is NOT for the faint of heart.
Your options will be to make modifications to the Main Board in the form of an additional female connector. The original board has already been designed with an area for this new female connector required that you'd need to mount, also locate the stacking frame parts for the hard drive & DVD-RW drive, fastening hardware, connectors, etc.
The other option would be to pull the working internals out of an otherwise broken VS-2480CD chassis, place it into your good chassis, and follow the instructions for performing a DVD-RW upgrade.
I'm fairly confident this information is accurate. If not, I will be surprised after working with this product for so long.
. . Falcon
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#1694654 - 12/03/20 03:20 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
[Re: FalconEddy]
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Chromatic
Space Cadet
Registered: 09/25/17
Posts: 21
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Thank you
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#1694655 - 12/03/20 03:20 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
[Re: dkfackler]
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Chromatic
Space Cadet
Registered: 09/25/17
Posts: 21
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Thank you
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#1701802 - 12/06/20 10:15 AM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
[Re: Chromatic]
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huvospeter
Space Cadet
Registered: 12/05/20
Posts: 4
Loc: Hungary
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Hello Everyone! I recently bought a 2480HD and I would like to know the actual number of the OS (2.50.. can be seen while starting up), but unfortunately the CH-EDIT button above Fader# 1 isn’t working. (”To find out which OS you are running, hold down the TRACK STATUS & CH-EDIT buttons above Fader# 1 while powering up the VS.”) Does anybody know, how can I view the OS number without the CH1 button? Did anyone exchange a wrong button before? Thanks!
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#1701807 - 12/06/20 01:03 PM
Re: Problem converting my Roland VS-2480DVD to SSD
[Re: huvospeter]
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Catweazle
Planeteer
Registered: 06/06/20
Posts: 248
Loc: Stockholm Sweden
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Try "Page" + "F1" when powering up, then you´re in "Test Mode" and if my memory does´nt fail me the OS number is there somewhere in that "window" ...... Not 100% sure though ... You can perform Fader Test , Button Test and other stuff there. Warning : Do NOT press "Format HD ? " !
To end "Test Mode" just shut down power .
If your VS is already in OS 2,50 there is only 2 OS it can be, and there is minor differences between the two .... It´s so small it does´nt even matter. It has been discussed somewhere here on the forum. ( Try search function )
Cheers !
Edit : Just now I did this "Page + F1" start up and my memory apparently works partially. Top of LCD screen is OS , Boot and Sub System numbers. What I called Button Test is called "Switch Check" and Fader Test is called "FdTest" and is performed by pressing F1 button .. And here is the WARNING again : Make sure you are at page one because F1 and F2 button on page two Formats your drive !!!!
Cheers !
Edited by Catweazle (12/06/20 04:58 PM)
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