#1566407 - 03/17/18 07:22 PM
VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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Paulrc
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My VS CDR ii is failing writing CDs. At first, I thought might have been hard drive fragmentation, so inited/reformatted the vs1880 drive to no avail.
So now, I'm thinking the CDR is the issue. Any thoughts on what is the best/compatible CDR to buy for this?
Thx!
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#1566415 - 03/17/18 08:24 PM
Re: VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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uptildawn
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Personal opinions about the VS-CD-Write-Read dilemma.....
1- There's never been a single brand or type of disc that has been reliable for every VS and burner, let alone for the difference between writing audio discs and backup discs.
2- The Roland VS recorder is about the pickiest system I have ever tried.
3- The same burner connected to a pc might perform flawlessly.
4- The same discs burned on a pc might write/read flawlessly.
5- It's impossible to predict which brand/type of disc will work consistently on your personal VS.
That being said and for what it's worth with today's diminishing interest and retail supply in all things CD-related..... Verbatim Lightscribe CDs have worked almost perfectly for me over the past 6-7 years (I think it's been at least that long now) with the 1680 and the CD Rack I own (It's a Plextor PX W12010TS burner). Not quite the latest version of a Roland-approved burner - the CD Rack is the equivalent of the CDRII in a rack case and I've owned mine since 2001. In that time I was able to routinely use just about any brand of off-the-shelf data CD-Rs and RWs, but had especially good success with Verbatim standard data discs, Sony, Maxell, TDK, Imation, Memorex..... maybe others. But also, over the course of time, different batches of all these brands gave me issues and more coasters than I needed..... with the exception of Verbatim. I still keep a small spool of Verbatim CD-RWs around.
Maybe I think that Verbatim are good for the VS...... or maybe they just happen to be good with my setup.
Also - you might, fi you can find one easily enough, try another scsi cable, or just get one as a spare. You might also pull the cable and re-seat it at both ends, just to make sure the pins are all connecting good. Do that with the machines both powered down, by the way. You might also try running a CD/DVD cleaning disc a half dozen times to make sure whatever it cleans gets a fair cleaning.
Barring that, you might take the drive apart and clean the inside laser guide rails of whatever dust accumulation might be on them. But BE VERY CAREFUL and don't mess up the insides, because then it's just not going to be any good... there's delicate stuff in there. I don't know who you could take it to to get it serviced - does anybody even offer CD burner cleaning services anymore?????
Edited by uptildawn (03/17/18 08:25 PM)
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#1566416 - 03/17/18 09:01 PM
Re: VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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Paulrc
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I've already tried scsi cable reseats and I tried a cleaning CD in the drive. No success. I've had this hardware for 12 to 15 years and never had a problem writing CD's. All different brand CD's.
I could try another scsi cable. I see these CDR's for sale on eBay. Used vs cdrii or refurbished plextors.
Wonder if a scsi to USB cable to a modern CD writer would be possible?
Or just replace the vs1880 with a current technology solutions? Think I saw a similar functionality new machine tascam? For like $500
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#1571603 - 05/17/18 11:32 PM
Re: VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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Sam Shile
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hELLO, My 15 plus year old CD player is making mechanical noises and failing to write as of yesterday. Can they be repaired? If not, what is a replacement model or brand that can hookup to the 1880? Thanks in advance.
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#1571606 - 05/18/18 12:20 AM
Re: VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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uptildawn
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there are mechanical parts and electronic parts in the burner, so yes, it could be repaired - question is, who repairs them?..... who do you take it to? There are also some internal cleaning and maintenance things that could be done, but are you confident in your ability to try opening up the case and clean without possibly damaging the alignment of the laser, or messing something else up?...... and - who do you take it to, to get any work done on it?
There are few models of burners that will work/are compatible with the VS - especially where making and recovering project backups are concerned.
Possibly one of the more readily available today may be the Plextor Plexwriter W1210TS. This is the model I think Roland used most often in their CDRII. It's the model I still use in the Roland-branded CD Rack (with a second drive bay outfitted for a Glyph brand hard drive and caddy).
Not sure what else to suggest. Maybe somebody else will have some more info you can use.
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#1571617 - 05/18/18 03:28 AM
Re: VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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Sam Shile
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Before I posted earlier, my main concern was not only quality, but the connectors in the back being compatible with the VS1880. I currently have a Que! drive QPS-525. I found a couple on Ebay,but they did not have the same connectors in the rear.
Up, I really appreciate your continued helpfulness! I found this link to what looks like a new machine.
http://www.saharamicro.com/-plextor-plex...eige-p-198.html
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#1571618 - 05/18/18 03:36 AM
Re: VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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Sam Shile
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My guess (research? lol) is the model I need has the SCSI interface connectors?
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#1571623 - 05/18/18 05:09 AM
Re: VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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uptildawn
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Well, that model you linked to is an internal drive, designed to work inside a pc. I found at least one used one on ebay for about 80.00 (US), but I don't know that it will do you much good to get one of those, unless you have the materials to put it in a scsi case, with power supply and the right adapter parts.
Roland also used internal drive models, but put them in external enclosures.
That used to be a fairly easy and cost effective solution - to build your own. Not so much anymore, unless you might find a local source for old tech and scsi stuff.
If I still had my spare, I'd offer to sell it to you... it's long gone though.
I wish I knew more about what makes a cd burner that is compatible and how it's different than the rest, so I could steer you in the right direction.
It's my understanding that there were a few Plextor models that worked, but I have no idea which ones, or how to identify the right type. The very first one I had was a JVC in a Roland box - that was the CDRI. I know there was at least one other brand, but don't recall which one, or the model.
Sorry that my knowledge of these things is stretched to the limit about now.
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#1571673 - 05/18/18 10:13 PM
Re: VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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Sam Shile
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Although it says internal, everything else appears to match up. model number, etc..
It states: "Interface SCSI"
I cant see the back to verify the SCSI connectors are there or how the power source hooks up.
I need the drivers to work. I can find a used QPS-525 the CR2 model with the SCSI interface for $250-300 or this new Plexor for 310 plus tax.
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#1571679 - 05/18/18 10:56 PM
Re: VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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uptildawn
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Can't tell you what to expect - the VS doesn't have driver updates.....
seems to me that the used CRII would likely have the same, or nearly same, Plextor drive, but without confirmation from the seller....... and not knowing the condition, especially where its reliability with the VS is concerned........ what do you do? That's a lot of cash to lay out, just to take a chance.
So is the new one - without a way to adapt it to use as an external unit........ you need to source parts to put it in a case with power supply. The VS doesn't supply power.
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#1572423 - 05/26/18 04:29 PM
Re: VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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Sam Shile
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UPdate: I found a Roland VS-CDRII CD Burner for VS series on Ebay $173 with shipping. Hooked it up yesterday works great!
Now I need to have my broken one repaired. Any referrals on this site?
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#1572424 - 05/26/18 04:43 PM
Re: VS1880 CDR ii write failure
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uptildawn
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Hey! Congrats on the CDRII!!!!
I still don't have a source for your repair, but congrats anyway on the find!
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