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#1573327 - 06/02/18 11:02 PM Johnny Depp
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Now touring in Russia with the Hollywood Vampires (including Alice Cooper and Joe Perry), fan pix show a gaunt and pale Depp. In fact, Depp now looks as bad as Alice Cooper did 30 years ago! Like him or not, he starred in some of my favorite movies over the years. Speculation runs the gamut from drugs, to aids to prep for a new movie role. Hmm - I wonder...

Fox News article with pix.

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#1573329 - 06/02/18 11:43 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: FatherApe]
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I think he's just "playing the role".
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#1573330 - 06/03/18 12:00 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: Andy McClelland]
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He does look pretty unhealthy.
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#1573331 - 06/03/18 12:05 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: Slabraton]
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Here's a link to a video from a Hollywood Vampire's Moscow performance at the end of May. Johnny looks much healthier there (regardless how badly the music sux). \:\)
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#1573341 - 06/03/18 06:06 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: FatherApe]
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Take the picture with a large grain of salt. He looks more than fine in the video, much better than most his age....and happy too.

Johnny Depp is, without a doubt, one of the best actors of his generation. And now, he gets to play guitar and live the life of a rock star.....good for him.
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#1573343 - 06/03/18 06:21 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: MadGuitrst]
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he has kids - hopefully they are maturing safely and as 'normally' as one can in that environment.
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#1573361 - 06/03/18 12:01 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: FatherApe]
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either he's suffering from a terminal illness or he's deep in the opioids.
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#1573363 - 06/03/18 12:06 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: FatherApe]
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Depp has played guitar his whole life. Itís not like suddenly heís decided to play rock star. He has been ďplayingĒ that his whole life. I donít know what Fox Noobs motivation is behind such a weird article....but, theyíve got 30 years of intentional misleading of the public with an agenda, so it makes me wonder if Depp has said something recently they need to cast doubt on....with the sheeple who they feed their brand of shit.
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#1573392 - 06/03/18 03:31 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: Popmann]
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I've worked with rock stars and film stars. As a rule, rock stars all want to get into the movies while movie stars all want to be rock stars.

And they are all convinced that the real money is in the other business.

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#1573404 - 06/03/18 04:47 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: Slabraton]
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Pop, I, like you, followed a link to see the article and photo's on Fox. I, probably like you, never watch fox, and only hear about it when trump's gratuitous communications with their 'news' desk pop up elsewhere in the legitimate press I do read/watch.
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#1573408 - 06/03/18 05:28 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: FatherApe]
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That's the scary part. Some tabloid reports something....and "real news" uses it as a source. If gives credibility to the story that is undeserving.
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#1575324 - 06/21/18 04:55 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: Popmann]
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Sorry to say, Rolling Stone's interview of Depp is the most tragic, depressing story I've read in a long time. He got way in over his head in the Hollywood lifestyle and is centerpiece in numerous lawsuits and bankrupcies. He spends his waking hours (in cover of darkness), drunk and stoned. He conceded that he has become worried that he will enter a place eyes open, and leave eyes closed.
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#1575354 - 06/21/18 10:38 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: FatherApe]
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He's a fine actor, but I don't like his role choices most of the time. Hope he regains control of the bus before it careens into tragedy.
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#1575357 - 06/21/18 11:50 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: JazAddict]
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oh please this famous shit is getting old. who knows what demons haunt this poor rich fool. oh man im im so rich I can do anything but I am so rich I must die . fuk im tired of people fucking over everyone else because they are doing so well. if And I say if he is sick because he fucked too many starletttes okay damn him if he is sick because he fuked too many fellow actors so be it if he is sick because he injected too much bad shit dauh wtf yea thats what happens... common why is he sick to make sales for his next shitty movie common..what has this man done for anyone....im sorry if he's sick but look he has a lot of cash and a lot of power what has he done with it for anyone.......
if he has I don't know
but if he's sick and you feel sorry for his sorry ass visit a hospital
visit a kids hospital
and tell me who is a star
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#1575402 - 06/22/18 11:33 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: grachus]
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Yah.... The poor-rich-famous-successful me thing is tiresome.
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#1575423 - 06/22/18 01:43 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: JazAddict]
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Unless Johhny makes dramatic changes, I can't see him lasting long.
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#1575502 - 06/23/18 07:58 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: JazAddict]
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 Originally Posted By: JazAddict
Yah.... The poor-rich-famous-successful me thing is tiresome.
That's why the typical rockstar "Road Songs" make me shake my head in disgust.

I'm out here on the road
Been gone for thirty weeks
I miss my family so
In a bus with dirty freaks

Another faceless crowd
Another town gone by
I feel so doggone anguished
It makes me wanna cry

Blah blah blahÖ \:D

The first one I can remember is that Bob Seeger crap song Turn the Page. But if I'm not mistaken just about every major rock act has penned one at some time or another.
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#1575505 - 06/23/18 09:48 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: Mooseboy]
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 Originally Posted By: Mooseboy
 Originally Posted By: JazAddict
Yah.... The poor-rich-famous-successful me thing is tiresome.
That's why the typical rockstar "Road Songs" make me shake my head in disgust.


The first one I can remember is that Bob Seeger crap song Turn the Page. But if I'm not mistaken just about every major rock act has penned one at some time or another.


Youíre entitled to dislike the Seger song and write off a whole category of songs too. But, in the context youíve stated which is barely germane(look it up if you need to..itís not a singer from the jackson5 btw) to the Depp comments, itís important to keep in mind that in the early winter of 1972, traveling from Ann Arbor Michigan to the Dakotas, Bob Seger was neither rich or famous.

Itís only because youíre familiar with the live version as your first exposure to the song, not the original, which I own, signed. In fact, Seger was in the very first rock band Iíve ever seen, playing in our back yard inside our screened in porch one summer in Detroit.
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#1575506 - 06/23/18 09:53 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: Mooseboy]
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 Originally Posted By: Mooseboy

that Bob Seeger crap song Turn the Page.


According to my calculations - the probability of you getting struck by lightning later today just went way up.

\:D

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#1575507 - 06/23/18 10:10 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: motown59]
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I think Depp looks fine in the videos. Perhaps slightly uncomfortable on stage, like he's making moves heís supposed to, rather than what the music or guitar makes him do, or look like. But, heís new to all this and someone like Perry has decades of stage time. Doesnít matter to me if he wants a crack at band stuff. His face and fame wears off after ten minutes on stage and youíre left with another hour of having to deliver music.

In a movie, nearly everything about your persona has been crafted for you: the story, lines, the makeup, blocking, the camera angles, the lighting the editing. Whatís left ? the actor to brings to life the character. And perhaps the actors get a little too much credit for the end product and success. But Depp has been terrific in his roles.

Everyone has demons. Fame and early wealth can frequently magnify or augment those demons and often there arenít solid close people in your life to step in and help steer the way. The gravy train of fame often creates a force field of yes-people around you

I did demos and a couple albums for a young promising artist here in town. Those recordings and her performances caught the interest of Depp and his then new label. She got signed and made a couple records with Depp, toured around, opening for some good artists. All reports were that he was nice, kind, fair, passionate about music and had a good ear. Since then the label folded. But on his dime, she got to realize a slice of a rare experiences for a creative artist.
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#1575515 - 06/23/18 11:05 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: motown59]
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Thanks kel, thatís nice to hear.
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#1575520 - 06/23/18 12:09 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: motown59]
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That's a great post, kel.

Perspective. Judgement. Empathy.

People in the world would be better if we could have more or less of those traits, IMHO.
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#1575550 - 06/23/18 03:19 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: MadGuitrst]
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Rolling Stone's long form article was written by a guy who was invited inside Depp's home and spent the better part of a week with him. Apparently, Depp was asleep all day and drunk on wine and stoned on hash all night. That alone is a recipe for disaster.

Johnny's Mom was an abusive train wreck herself. That scenario is awfully hard for a kid to come out of 'normal'. When his money started coming in, he bought a nice house on a horse ranch for his Mom and family.

Marlon Brando, Hunter S. Thompson and Keith Richards are the 3 men in the world that he most respects (and emulates). With heroes like that, who needs enemies.

To a large degree, I have no argument with those who are sick of the 'poor me, I'm so rich and popular' syndrome. I agree that from the outside, his lifestyle is despicable. But I know from my own experience, there are events and situations in life that leave a lasting impression and unconscious scars that may evidence themselves in self destructive behavior that looks deplorable from the outside and takes a deep dive to even connect to the root cause.

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#1575558 - 06/23/18 04:21 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: motown59]
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 Originally Posted By: motown59
Itís only because youíre familiar with the live version as your first exposure to the song, not the original, which I own, signed. In fact, Seger was in the very first rock band Iíve ever seen, playing in our back yard inside our screened in porch one summer in Detroit.
Big fuckin' deal.

It's still a whiny song, as are all of the other songs that strive to replicate it (look it up). And I really could give a flying rat's ass if you have a signature of a man who totally wasted his talent on crap songs.

He has one of the best rock and roll voices ever, and he sings songs for idiots. That is my opinion. Yours may differ.
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#1575559 - 06/23/18 04:23 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: Mooseboy]
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From Johnny Depp to Bob Seeger, four more degrees to Kevin Bacon.
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#1575561 - 06/23/18 04:48 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: Mooseboy]
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#1575563 - 06/23/18 05:39 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: FatherApe]
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Oh geez, it's a totally different song, because KEL HAS A SIGNED COPY. Wow, that really makes a difference.

And by the way, I heard this one LONG before the live version, which wasn't any better. A bass player buddy of mine had a cassette of Back in '72 which he played over and over and over again on the way to gigs.
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#1575574 - 06/23/18 06:10 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: Mooseboy]
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Why the attack on kel, Moosey?
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#1575575 - 06/23/18 06:17 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: MadGuitrst]
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MG, check back through the thread again.
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#1575621 - 06/24/18 10:48 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: Mooseboy]
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 Originally Posted By: Mooseboy



A bass player buddy of mine had a cassette of Back in '72 which he played over and over and over again on the way to gigs.

He(Seger)sings songs for idiots. That is my opinion.


Something about those two notions makes me laugh
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#1575624 - 06/24/18 11:13 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: MadGuitrst]
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Why the attack on kel, Moosey?


Perhaps he has supplanted Al as the new resident clumsily-worded, opinionated musicologist ? There has been a void you know
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#1575626 - 06/24/18 11:18 AM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: motown59]
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I'm not super familar with Bob Seger catelog but never thought of him as having shitty songs...
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#1575638 - 06/24/18 12:37 PM Re: Johnny Depp [Re: motown59]
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Why the attack on kel, Moosey?


Perhaps he has supplanted Al as the new resident clumsily-worded, opinionated musicologist ? There has been a void you know
You already filled it.
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