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#1588138 - 10/10/18 03:15 PM What a marvelous wonder
C Jo Go Offline
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What a godsend -- how can anyone using a VS system > function without the VIRDIS ..??

We use the 2480 day in ~ day out And with the advent of ASC into the studios..makes all the projects go that much easier.

Just to be able to track in our PC HD and organize our backups -- without DVD's stacked around ...
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#1588386 - 10/12/18 10:05 PM Re: What a marvelous wonder [Re: C Jo Go]
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Would you say it's worth the investment for purely archival purposes, C Jo? Like you with the 2480, I use my 1680 as the "brain" of my studio every day. I've been backing up everything on CD-R for almost 20 years now (yikes!). As luck would have it, very few of those CDs have gone dead on me, and I've found a way to keep things relatively organized, but reliable optical media is getting more and more difficult to find now as most of the companies still making recordable CDs don't seem to care much about quality control (how I miss what Taiyo Yuden used to be). And the amount of time it takes to back things up has always been a little frustrating for me.

Given how much material I record for myself and others, I'm starting to think I should look into this.

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#1588392 - 10/12/18 10:53 PM Re: What a marvelous wonder [Re: concubinefeeder]
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Can I jump in and give a vote for VirDIS?

VirDIS is nothing short of greatness!
Along with the included VSWaveExport (and CD2Roland ripper), there's not much missing to tie a 1680 to the pc - especially for reliable and reclaimable backups.

VirDIS makes the VS think that it's copying (and or recording) its SONG data to an external scsi drive. So there's no need to even continue to create CD-R backups in the traditional sense. You simply set up a virtual hd, use the VS to initialize it and then either use SONG Copy Playable to copy whole SONGS as you might from partition to partition, or even to record directly to (like C Jo has been doing).

It actually goes beyond that, but much of the feature set in 1680-level terms is still being worked on - vigorously so by Bill Casey, I might add, as time allows. I've been helping to debug advances, when time allows - and there's been some good developments there.

Off the top of my head, I don't remember what stage CD recover for a 1680 is at, because it's been a couple months since I've helped Bill out and I haven't heard anything. But if not now, at some point in the near future, I expect him to have the 1680 be able to recover SONG backup discs from a pc's dvd/cd burner drive - much more consistently reliable in the long term than the external drives we've had to limit ourselves to in the past.

It's unfortunate that the 1680 doesn't do wave file export and import, as the 2480 can - but we may have to live with not having that function even with VirDIS. Still, there's not a whole lot of need, considering that we have a working version of VSWaveExport and it does a great job! Limitations exist where importing wave files back into a VS project are concerned..... Then again, the pc hold so much more power and convenience than the 1680 that I am really not sure if I ever want to import a file back to a 1680 project, so I can work in those confines... Maybe that's just me.

I might power up the 1680 and VirDIS this weekend to refresh my memory on where CD functions stand and report back.... I want to be sure I'm reporting correct info here.

I will check especially two things - that CD recover works in any fashion from pc to 1680 and that CD2Roland ripper is indeed in the VSWaveExport toolbox, as I'm pretty sure it is.

The fewer reliable options we have as time goes on, the more important VirDIS really becomes to all of us who still want to use our Roland VS recorders, I think. So with that, I'd definitely put my vote in to get VirDIS, even in its current state (where the 1680 limitations exist) and even though it's still tied to the PCI and PCIe format. I don't want to hear the debate about the USB version, really, but suffice it to say that I'm sure everybody would LOVE to see that finally become reality.

Bill knows - he's just got to put his focus where he see the most value of his time and effort right now, I'm sure.
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#1588394 - 10/13/18 12:07 AM Re: What a marvelous wonder [Re: uptildawn]
concubinefeeder Offline
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Thanks, uptildawn! Really appreciate you taking the time to get into the nitty gritty. I haven't been around these parts in quite a while, so this is all new to me. It's exciting to know there are folks who are doing things like this.
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#1588677 - 10/15/18 09:21 PM Re: What a marvelous wonder [Re: concubinefeeder]
C Jo Go Offline
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I use nothing but the VIRDIS now --- I track all my songs on a external drive -- the 2480 stays free of Projects --

Our studio would fade away >>> without Bill's ASC ....
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