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#1599205 - 01/21/19 04:31 PM Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI?
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I just pulled out my old VS 2480 I wanted to transfer my files to my Windows 7/64 bit, to edit in Nuendo.
I also have the v-fire and cables, plus I have the CDR Rack with SCSI interface.

Will either of these allow me to export my files to Nuendo on my Wndows 764 bit system? If not what do I need to pull this off.

Thank you for any help you may be able to give me .

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#1599215 - 01/21/19 05:01 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: Ginwin]
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i'd use the cd rack and export your tracks individually and drop them in nuendo.
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#1599216 - 01/21/19 05:02 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: BmC]
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#1599281 - 01/22/19 06:46 AM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: BmC]
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hi Blair,thanks.... I have no SCSI interface on my computer, So this would not work. I have an original R-buss Card, but I see there are no Win/64bit drivers for this.
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#1599291 - 01/22/19 08:49 AM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: Ginwin]
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If worse comes to worse, you can always do a simple .wav export providing you have a CD or DVD unit. It takes a few minutes to download, but it works every time for me.
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#1599355 - 01/22/19 02:17 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: powermac]
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Can you please explain how your doing this? I have a CD/DVD optical drive in my Windows 7/64bit computer yes. And I backed up all my data from the VS 2480 to the Scsi CDR Rack on to CDR's. As far as I'm aware Files must be converted from Roland's own format to wav first. Are you using VirDis? If so What version?


Thanks


Edited by Ginwin (01/22/19 02:20 PM)

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#1599366 - 01/22/19 03:34 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: Ginwin]
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What powermac is suggesting is to use the 2480's wav export function to make CDs with wav files on them, which you can then easily import into whatever daw on the computer you want (pc or mac).

If you want to extract wav files from the VS format on your backup discs, then yes - you'd need some form/combination of the CD ripper tool, VSWaveExport, or VirDIS (which contains the ripper and VSWE in its extra utilities.

You could always load the backup disc(s) into the 2480 and export wav files to blank CDs and then do what powermac suggests, if the songs are not still on the 2480. It would be slower, but you wouldn't need to chase down the utilities I mentioned either.
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#1599368 - 01/22/19 03:56 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: Ginwin]
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Hi ginwin,
Just n fyi, There are 64bit Win drivers for the RPC-1 and RBUSS out there somewhere. I used to have both 32 and 64 bit drivers stored on my old computer...but of course I've misplaced the 64bit drivers now that I need them.

I've searched the web and seem to get the old link to the 64 bit drivers that doesn't work anymore.
Damn! Someone's gotta have them lol!!
Rick

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#1599377 - 01/22/19 05:33 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: ricco]
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To my knowledge the original VS 2480 could not do that (export wav), I'll have to go read the manual again. As the CDR Drive was a huge external Rack via SCSI. and not the built in CD/DVD R/W.

Also, I have never found an r-buss driver to work at 64bit. All the links I clicked seem to be Virus sites.... Mind you that was almost two years ago. Does anyone have an active link they might be willing to share with me?

VS wav export? I'm showing it does not run on 64/bit Windows system.

I'm looking at NCH rip software, see if this works....

VirDis, Unfortunately is out of my budge. I did the numbers for shipping here to Canada and with Duty, exchange and shipping I'm looking at $700CDN You can't buy just the software you must buy the card and cable too.

Again, if anyone has any links they might be willing to share, this would really help me out.


Thanks again.

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#1599387 - 01/22/19 07:04 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: Ginwin]
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Pg 354 of the 2480 pdf reference manual from 2001 reads -

If you want to move audio from a project to an external device—such as a computer or sampler—
that reads .WAV files, you can export any track or phrase as a .WAV file. The
exported audio is written onto a data CD.
When you want to export an entire track, use the Track Export feature. To export
portions of a track, use the VS-2480’s phrase editing tools to fashion the audio into a
phrase, and use the Phrase Export feature.
The procedures for exporting tracks and phrase start a bit differently, but end on the
the same CD-burning screen.
Exporting Tracks as .WAV Files
1. Insert a blank CD-R or CD/RW into your CD burner.
2. On the CD-RW MASTERING MENU screen (Page 349 - which reads - CD operations on the VS-2480
require a connected Roland-approved CD-R/RW drive. If you’re creating CDs, you’ll also need blank CD-R or CD-RW discs.),
press F5 (TrkExp) for “Track Export”—the TRACK EXPORT Select Track screen
appears.
On this screen, you see a list of all of the project’s V-Tracks. To the right is a V-Track
map that shows you which V-Tracks contain data. When you export a track as a
.WAV file, you’re really exporting a V-Track—see Chapter 6 for an explanation of
the relationship between tracks and V-Tracks.
You can select the V-Tracks you want to export on TRACK EXPORT’s Select Track
screen or on its V-Track Map screen, described on the next page. You can mark as
many V-Tracks for export as you want on either screen.
There’s nothing to prevent you from importing a .WAV file onto a track—and at a time
location—where there’s already data. Be sure to select your destination V-Tracks and
time location carefully—the imported data will replace whatever’s there.
Since most audio programs can read .WAV files, you can process exported VS-2480
audio using virtually any audio processing or editing software. Afterwards—and after
saving the result as a .WAV file—you can re-import the audio back into the VS-2480.
The VS-2480 exports each pair of linked tracks as a stereo .WAV file

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NCH rip cannot read 2480 (or any VS') data, so don't bother trying. No Windows program can read them, for that matter. That's why there were special tools - VSWE, the CD2Roland ripper and VirDIS - developed by extremely generous and talented people who work around the limitations created by the proprietary file format Roland used ( which was great for the VS world... not so much for the collaboration with a PC).

Hopefully, somebody will chime in with the links you require. I know that I've been able to download the VSWE from thegoodlibrary.com, but others have not. And my attempts to help by supplying a dropbox link to a copy resulted in dropbox suspending my account, because of a false positive Trojan alert they evidently got from the package.

I know somebody had been hosting a version 2.5 of the VSWE that was supposed to be for certain clean (at least no false positives - mine was clean and is clean, too). The CD2Roland ripper is included with VSWE, by the way.





Edited by uptildawn (01/22/19 07:05 PM)
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#1599399 - 01/22/19 08:11 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: uptildawn]
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"What powermac is suggesting is to use the 2480's wav export function to make CDs with wav files on them, which you can then easily import into whatever daw on the computer you want (pc or mac)."

isn't this what i suggested.
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#1599402 - 01/22/19 08:25 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: BmC]
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 Originally Posted By: BmC
"What powermac is suggesting is to use the 2480's wav export function to make CDs with wav files on them, which you can then easily import into whatever daw on the computer you want (pc or mac)."

isn't this what i suggested.


Absolutely! And you were first - ... the op didn't get it the first time, as evidenced by his reply to you. That also might have been a different form of the answer he gave recently, when he says he doesn't think the original 2480 could export wav files.... and so I quoted from the 2001 manual - Is that early enough for the 2480 line?..... I don't remember just when it came out.
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#1599404 - 01/22/19 08:40 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: BmC]
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Yeah ok cool, I'm gonna try that. I do remember that the CRD Scsi unit was very fussy about CDR types and it would often fail when doing a data back up. and slow as molasses. 4XW

Do you have a gmail account? You can upload it G-drive and share link....lol

Ok fantastic guys. Thank you for all your help here. This should keep me busy for a few days.

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#1599406 - 01/22/19 08:52 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: Ginwin]
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Quote - Do you have a gmail account? You can upload it G-drive and share link....lol end quote

Are you talking to me? about uploading VSWE?
The gmail account and any other cloud account is likely to flag the zipped file containing the files, because it sees one of them as a Trojan...... it's a false positive, though - but it makes no difference to an antivirus program. In fact, one computer of mine will strip the file right out of the zipped folder and won't even let me have access to it, if I download/copy it from my other pc that has no issue with it. I won't risk having another cloud service shut me down for that...... sorry.

Maybe do a couple of searches for the program (version 2.5) in these VS forums. I'm sure you will run across the planeteer who has hosted it..... although it's been quite some time since I've seen a post by him (I remember who, when I see the name, but don't ask me what that is - I don't remember).
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#1599409 - 01/22/19 09:25 PM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: uptildawn]
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Yeah that's ok then. No problem I understand. (y)

Thanks

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#1599449 - 01/23/19 08:07 AM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: Ginwin]
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change the .zip extension to, say .jpg then back to .zip after download.
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#1599450 - 01/23/19 08:17 AM Re: Presonus v-fire.. Windows 64bit driver? Or SCSI? [Re: BmC]
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I've actually tried that and it did not work with dropbox at all.
I happen to have 2 computers that are nearly identical - one will let me download and unzip VSWE, the other flags the download and removes one file before I can even look at the folder. That one pc also wouldn't let me install VirDIS completely, because of this and Bill has had to do a remote session to download the program updates, because of this.

You really should seek out that source I told you about -
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