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#1601477 - 02/08/19 02:41 PM CD burner insisting a blank CD is full.
Rob1 Offline
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I posted this on the BR1600 page with no result. My final goal is to import WAV files into my 2480 so I figured with you guys being a little more lively I might double my chance of getting a good response. Below:

I have been delighted with my recent purchase of this 1600 until now. I would like to export a track as a WAV file. I put in my blank CD and go through the correct procedures. Every time I get a screen that says "!CD Full". This is after waiting for the "Now Writing..." screen to go away which takes long enough. My wifes BR from an earlier date writes at 24x. My top speed is 8x. Thanks for any help out there.

Recently I tried another brand of CD. I first used Staples brand. I just now used verbatim. No luck. Same thing. I don't know if it's software related or whether the burner is the problem. It imports fine, turning a CDR file into whatever the Boss 1600 uses. It's going from that file to a WAV on a CD that is the problem.

Rob


Edited by Rob1 (02/08/19 02:42 PM)

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#1602208 - 02/15/19 06:40 AM Re: CD burner insisting a blank CD is full. [Re: Rob1]
ricco Offline
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Hi ROb1, I have no experience with the BR1600, however, I have run into similar problems you describe with the Roland VS 1680 and the Vs 2480.
Without exception, each time, it was the brand of CD I was trying to feed it. I can tell you that it often took me more than 2 different brands to get it working.
There is a list, if you go to the ROLAND main site, that lists some of the brands that will work...

FYI: I just GOOGLED "CDs THAT WILL WORK WITH ROLAND BR 1600"
And the very first site that popped up was this info page from ROLAND/BOSS
I think it'll help answer your problems.

https://www.boss.info/us/support/knowledge_base/201979469/

Cheers. Please post back if it works for you

Rick (ricco)

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#1602309 - 02/15/19 07:32 PM Re: CD burner insisting a blank CD is full. [Re: ricco]
Rob1 Offline
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Hey ricco, I have been to new egg and amazon looking for these special CD-R's. I can't find any of those brands. Thanks for your input. I use to have a 1680. Never had a problem with the CD burner. This 1600 is killing me. I bought "wavemaker 1600" thinking - OK cool i'll just go USB out and back up whatever song I want. Unfortunately, when you backup, it has to be the entire hard drive. Geeze!
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#1602321 - 02/15/19 08:53 PM Re: CD burner insisting a blank CD is full. [Re: Rob1]
Starliner Offline
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I tried to post links to Disc Makers, Amazon, and eBay to give you, but cannot do it.

I found the Taiyo Yuden CD's and DVD's on both eBay and Amazon, and Disc Makers website has blank CD's and DVD's as well.

Starliner
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#1602359 - 02/16/19 09:18 AM Re: CD burner insisting a blank CD is full. [Re: Starliner]
Rob1 Offline
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Thanks Starliner. Ill try them.
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#1602897 - 02/21/19 07:48 AM Re: CD burner insisting a blank CD is full. [Re: Rob1]
Rob1 Offline
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I did find some Taiyo Yuden CD's on amazon. Tried them. Didn't work. So, Software or hardware? I don't know.

Thanks

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#1602902 - 02/21/19 08:31 AM Re: CD burner insisting a blank CD is full. [Re: Rob1]
uptildawn Offline
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I have a couple ideas about this - although I've never used the BR1600, myself.

Have you checked to see what version os you have installed in your 1600? If your 1600 is running the original version, maybe that's why your machine burns at such a slower max rate than your wife's (unless she has a different machine altogether, that is). Even though hers is from an "earlier date", it could still have a more recent os version.

After checking your own version, you might find that you could update yours - https://www.boss.info/us/support/by_product/br-1600cd/updates_drivers/ - shows the most recent version Roland issued. Maybe try installing it - and even if you already have this one installed, sometimes reinstalling an os can jog a finicky Roland back into operation. You'd also have a copy of the most recent os version on your computer, stashed away for any future need, when Roland finally decides to no longer post them at some point in time.

The other idea is this - why not take advantage of your 1600's ability to export wav files to a PC? From there, you could burn the wav files to disc very easily and reliably (use an external burner if your pc doesn't already have one, or one that works).
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#1603114 - Yesterday at 03:36 PM Re: CD burner insisting a blank CD is full. [Re: uptildawn]
Rob1 Offline
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Thanks uptildawn, I'll see if I can figure out how to check the OS version on this thing. It doesn't show you like the 2480 does upon boot up.
Also, I purchased "wavemaker 1600" on ebay. It will take whatever you backup through the USB to your computer and convert the 1600 files to wavs. The deal is, It seems you have to backup your entire drive at a snails pace.
The other option, as you mentioned is to export wavs for each track to your computer. If the burner worked I could select a bunch of tracks at a time and burn them all onto a CD. Oddly enough, you can do only one at a time using the USB cable to your computer($%^$@%&!!!!!). Very frustrating. Especially sence you have to go through a routine of connecting and then disconnecting the USB cable for every track. This is just not working out.
Originally, I just wanted a way to record away from the 2480 sense it's at another location fifty minutes away. I thought I could still do some work with my music and simply bring the wav's into the 2480.
Geeze, had I known. An interface for a laptop and Reaper is looking better to me every time I struggle with this thing. Ain't no buddy got time fo dis!

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#1603126 - Yesterday at 04:42 PM Re: CD burner insisting a blank CD is full. [Re: Rob1]
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According to what I remember seeing, you can export a whole song's worth of wav files to the pc from the 1600 in one shot - I don't know how or where to find it in the manual... I just recall seeing something about it. I don't know why you would have needed to buy that wavemaker program, but I'm sure there must be something about it that makes it better, maybe.....

As you're discovering, the only way to do long distance with these machines is to have identical versions of the machines, or version groups (like a 1680 and 1880, but even that is not great).

I haven't given up my VS machines, but I hardly use them these days, except for collaborating with somebody who also has the same machines, which is rare for me. I went to pc/interface/software daw quite a few years ago. I've never understood the never ending complaints about using computers for recording - the VS is a computer, so what's new? If a person is really stuck on physical knobs and faders, they can get a midi control unit that will work with almost every pc daw......

I would think that as your 1600 boots up there must be at least some hint of a version......... I guess maybe they decided not to use the same hidden version scheme with the BRs that they did with the VSs? The VS usually uses a combination of the track 1 status and track mixer buttons held down while powering on with the power button (from cold, not standby).
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Dr Lonnie Smith Trio w/Jonathan Kreisberg on guitar
Pharoah Sanders Quartet
Fred Hersch Trio
These are post mixes set to single camera video (by Rich Rauch).

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#1603177 - Yesterday at 11:05 PM Re: CD burner insisting a blank CD is full. [Re: Rob1]
ricco Offline
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Hi ROb1, Not sure if you figured out how to find the OS of your BOSS BR1600...but I did a GOOGLE search and this ROLAND BOSS site popped up...shows you how to find your version, and has links to files to update if you don't.
Surprisingly, I often find I'll go to GOOGLE and get a faster result for my question than going to my ROLAND manual(s)!
Heres the link:
https://www.roland.com/us/support/knowledge_base/201977369/

Shame only one of those CD's worked for you. Again, that was the info right off of the BOSS ROLAND BR1600 web site. I have found the burners on my VS 1690. 2480, and even the outboard SCSI burners to all cause me grief at times.

The oddest behavior they'd exhibit, is to NOT recognize, or be able to finish a burn, for attempt after attempt. Suddenly, it was as if the burner had to "warmup" , and it would burn copy after copy no problem.
No rhyme or reason. Frustrating as hell. I think UptilDawn hit the nail on the head. VirDis sounds like the way to go, and I know I'll be going that way if I plan to stay with ROLAND gear.
cheers
Rick (ricco)

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