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#1617554 - 06/18/19 04:47 AM live recording session/video from the band
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We set up on the back patio, I ran three cameras and a recording. Turned out ok. Pretty loud in the neighborhood. I tried some plug- ins for the wind noise that sort of worked. Color matching three cameras along with two light temperatures proved difficult.

anyhow, it's not really a music video. More like capturing a live session on video cameras. I still have no studio set up so the mixing was the guess & hope plan!

My new Roland sample player pedal for my left foot. So far it's been pretty nice for snare. This is pretty much how we sound & look at a gig.

Might play at 1080p if you click on the little gear looking icon..or even 4K since the Panasonic three-shot was at 4K resolution.

Thanks for watching



Edited by motown59 (06/18/19 05:08 AM)
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#1617559 - 06/18/19 06:08 AM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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That was great! Lovely recording / production.
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#1617565 - 06/18/19 08:06 AM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Alan]
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Ah! I didn’t see this before I posted the same thing.
Awesome vocals! Audio seems really dry and in my face, though. Doesn’t match the pro quality of the video.
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#1617566 - 06/18/19 10:31 AM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Xenophile]
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Very cool!
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#1617567 - 06/18/19 12:01 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Andy McClelland]
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A cool performance and video.
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#1617571 - 06/18/19 12:56 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Doofie]
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Fantastic! The snare is cool. That guitar sounds great.
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#1617577 - 06/18/19 02:14 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: flatcat]
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Very nice all around! I really dig the harmonies.
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#1617580 - 06/18/19 02:30 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: MadGuitrst]
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Lovely harmonies. Played at 1080 here. FWIW. I counted your nose hairs.
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#1617590 - 06/18/19 05:32 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Popmann]
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Thanks for the views and comments!
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#1617591 - 06/18/19 05:36 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Popmann]
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 Originally Posted By: Popmann
Lovely harmonies. Played at 1080 here. FWIW. I counted your nose hairs.


which also count to 1080 coincidentally, 513 left, 567 right nostril.
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#1617593 - 06/18/19 06:30 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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What's the "p" stand for in that context? Ha.
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#1617595 - 06/18/19 06:37 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Popmann]
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picking
precisely
Prodigious
Pulmonary
plucked
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#1617597 - 06/18/19 06:42 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Xenophile]
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 Originally Posted By: Xenophile
Ah! I didn’t see this before I posted the same thing.
Awesome vocals! Audio seems really dry and in my face, though. Doesn’t match the pro quality of the video.


I mixed it not like a studio record, but almost as if you're standing in front of the band, listening to an unplugged concert, only a little bit better. There are four delay/reverb plugs happening actually but very subtle

Apparently needed to be more than a little bit for your tastes.

I appreciate the comments, thanks
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#1617605 - 06/18/19 07:26 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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The mix was ok. Dry is good, I think. If you gussy it up with too much reverb/delay, it would make it too cheesy. Also, nice harmonies.
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#1617612 - 06/18/19 07:57 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: mobofsquirrels]
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Definitely picking. Point, Kel.
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#1617615 - 06/18/19 08:45 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Popmann]
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Just beautiful!!
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#1617616 - 06/18/19 08:48 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Doughboy]
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Good color matching for sure. Are you using Premiere to edit?
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#1617628 - 06/18/19 09:35 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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 Originally Posted By: motown59
I mixed it not like a studio record, but almost as if you're standing in front of the band, listening to an unplugged concert, only a little bit better. There are four delay/reverb plugs happening actually but very subtle

Apparently needed to be more than a little bit for your tastes.

Maybe it was because I was listening through headphones last night. When I listen through speakers it doesn't sound quite so "stark" to me. I hear what you were trying to do up there. \:D

Damn! Your harmonies are outstanding! I'd love to plop myself down front and center and listen to you guys for a few sets.
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#1617629 - 06/18/19 09:45 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Xenophile]
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i like the dryness of the voices...
no where to hide.
it's good.
nice job kel

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#1617665 - 06/18/19 11:45 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: gonzo]
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Thanks for the views and comments.

Its always a bit scary to just record by looking at meters and not hearing the audio on speakers. I never know if there are deal-breaker phase issues, hums, buzzes or a cord that goes bad mid-take. It seems to work out. I forgot the windscreen to the AT SD mic which proved near fatal for the audio. A de-plosive plugin actually did pretty well but it changed the phase enough that you can hear it now & then...not like I had calculated the phase distances very well to being with.

Tracked on the Presonus SL board, mixed in studio one.

Same roll of the dice with the cameras. I hope they retain focus. I had big time white balance issues with bright sunlight and tungsten face lights. I forgot my blue gels at home. And, trying to get the Zoom Q4n camera to look anything like the Panasonic and canon proved difficult.

I learn many things each video...then forget some for the next shoot, there are new challenges, or I run out of time to fix stuff.
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#1617675 - 06/19/19 01:32 AM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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Clean ( as usual ) Nice approach to this classic -- Next time you need a drummer ( E Drums specialist ) love to fill in the rest of the percussion
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#1617676 - 06/19/19 01:34 AM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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 Originally Posted By: motown59

Tracked on the Presonus SL board, mixed in studio one.


KEL ::: Was this straight to a SD card ??
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#1617681 - 06/19/19 02:26 AM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: C Jo Go]
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Thanks CJo!

It was my older AI 24 mixer into a MacBook pro and the files recorded directly to Studio One where I mixed. Ten input channels. I mixed by listening to three sets of headphones. I don’t recommend that technique. The last tweaks suggested by my friend Robert, who mastered the file late last night.

I may buy the 16 ch series III mixer at some point. Then it would be direct to the SD card, and a transfer to S1 pro DAW
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#1617682 - 06/19/19 02:29 AM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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What do you think of Studio One?
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#1617683 - 06/19/19 02:42 AM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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 Originally Posted By: motown59

I learn many things each video...then forget some for the next shoot, there are new challenges, or I run out of time to fix stuff.


This, in one sentence, is my story with recording. hahahahaha
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#1617694 - 06/19/19 03:26 AM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: flatcat]
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Nicely done!

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#1617698 - 06/19/19 03:40 AM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: LarryG]
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Wow.... Thats just excellent on every level. Tight, smooth, gorgeous music. Fine video.
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#1617702 - 06/19/19 03:55 AM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: JazAddict]
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Very cool. All of it. Great voice, nice production all around.
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#1617722 - 06/19/19 01:01 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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And, trying to get the Zoom Q4n camera to look anything like the Panasonic and canon proved difficult
You probably know this, but even when you shot on camcorders from the same manufacturer you're still going to have issues with primary color correction… at least that's been my experience over the past 26 years.

What has helped me immensely is the X-Rite ColorChecker Video. You may already have a similar or better tool, but if not, you may want to check this out.



The above example was shown with Final Cut Pro X, but the same idea applies to all edit platforms. Just food for thought.
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#1617730 - 06/19/19 01:29 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: mobofsquirrels]
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What do you think of Studio One?


I like Studio One. Protools has things I love too, but on all my personal projects Presonus has been the DAW.

You should ask Gonzo, he’s really good and experienced with S1
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#1617733 - 06/19/19 01:47 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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Nice Motown! What a great rendition, loved it.
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#1617740 - 06/19/19 02:21 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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 Originally Posted By: mobofsquirrels
What do you think of Studio One?


I like Studio One. Protools has things I love too, but on all my personal projects Presonus has been the DAW.

You should ask Gonzo, he’s really good and experienced with S1



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#1617743 - 06/19/19 02:42 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: gonzo]
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Hilarious!
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#1617768 - 06/19/19 04:59 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: Mooseboy]
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Ha!
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#1617770 - 06/19/19 05:03 PM Re: live recording session/video from the band [Re: motown59]
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 Originally Posted By: mobofsquirrels
What do you think of Studio One?


I like Studio One. Protools has things I love too, but on all my personal projects Presonus has been the DAW.

You should ask Gonzo, he’s really good and experienced with S1


Thanks, I've been considering moving on from the 2480. I was looking at the presonus studio live 32 series III, but it doesn't seem to work with protools. But it at least has a few knobs and motorized faders. Anyways, I've read mixed reviews about the board, and S1.

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