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#1635868 - 11/16/19 10:05 PM Comparable
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Hi guys,

I was wondering with which currently interface and maybe the DAW the VS2480 is comparable.
Is it comparable with the Champions league ones ?
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2xVS2480HD,MB-24, 3xVS8f-3, Plugins: LA-1176,
Antares Autotune, Hi-Res EQ, T-Racks, 2VS8f-3 (for the 2480 slave). Focusrite Isa one A/D, Behringer C4, Rode Nt-2,AE-7000

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#1635888 - 11/17/19 09:17 AM Re: Comparable [Re: daemberg]
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How do you mean? In terms of what?
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#1635899 - 11/17/19 10:43 AM Re: Comparable [Re: March]
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What is "the Champions league ones ?"
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These are post mixes set to single camera video (by Rich Rauch).

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#1635900 - 11/17/19 10:44 AM Re: Comparable [Re: March]
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In termes of quality & sound, like an Apollo or Steinberg UR system...
A buddy of mine has a UR44 and the Roland sounds better in my opinion.
The only one audio workstation left on the market is the tascam dsp,when my Roland VS will pass away it will be not my first choice.
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2xVS2480HD,MB-24, 3xVS8f-3, Plugins: LA-1176,
Antares Autotune, Hi-Res EQ, T-Racks, 2VS8f-3 (for the 2480 slave). Focusrite Isa one A/D, Behringer C4, Rode Nt-2,AE-7000

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#1635901 - 11/17/19 10:45 AM Re: Comparable [Re: uptildawn]
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It means "the best"
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2xVS2480HD,MB-24, 3xVS8f-3, Plugins: LA-1176,
Antares Autotune, Hi-Res EQ, T-Racks, 2VS8f-3 (for the 2480 slave). Focusrite Isa one A/D, Behringer C4, Rode Nt-2,AE-7000

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#1635902 - 11/17/19 11:06 AM Re: Comparable [Re: daemberg]
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In terms of A/D convertors and preamps, I've found the VS pretty good and serviceable. You can certainly find better ones, depending on your budget. The VS is a stand-alone unit that packs up a lot of features in one box, so compromise is to be expected. I find that it does everything that ProTools do, albeit a little more slowly, but I can live with that

Can you find better convertors and preamps? Sure, if you truly need them. Many of us use outboard processors, to supplement the VS--again, depending on the budget. Are the outboards better? Sure thing--or else people wouldn't buy them.

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#1635962 - 11/17/19 11:58 PM Re: Comparable [Re: March]
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No, it's not comparable to champion studios with champion stand alone pieces....but it's not a fair comparison.

For a stand alone self-contained unit, it's the best.

For dollar to dollar comparison it's the best.

At the end of the day, it comes down to what you can afford and how much time you have to deal with learning curves.

If you can afford a $3000 AD/DA unit, but don't have a lot more money for just as high quality preamps, monitors, etc, etc, etc, etc.....what's the point....

2480s are great value imo, just fantastic.

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#1644879 - 02/19/20 05:50 PM Re: Comparable [Re: keeppracticing]
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 Originally Posted By: keeppracticing
...2480s are great value imo, just fantastic.


Agree... as are all in the VS line.
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#1644916 - 02/20/20 02:19 AM Re: Comparable [Re: LarryG]
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Best value --- and our Pro Tools 11 >> has set idle for many years-- nothing works like the 2480 ....

Edited by C Jo Go (02/20/20 02:21 AM)
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#1645386 - 02/24/20 10:23 AM Re: Comparable [Re: C Jo Go]
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At the price point of US$500 (currently) the VS2480 is a good way to make a professional recording. It costs less than a powerful computer with all the programs and interfaces.

If you buy a great microphone like a Rode K2 ($500) and record at 24 bit 48Khz or higher you will be able to make a recording that is phenomenal. If you get and less pleasing but great mic like a Rode NT1A and a nice preamp you will also be able to make a professional sounding recording.

If you record with MTP you will have a color on your recording. Some like it, some don't. I don't care for it which means I get less tracks from the VS2480. However I have two VS2480s.

If you are making demos for people or yourself you can use other formats in the VS2480 and it will sound good enough. If you are making hip-hop then it will certainly be good enough.

Cons:
1)It is not quick and easy to get the music from the VS into a computer.
2) It does not have reverse or play backward ability.
3) The plugins on a laptop have become tremendous. So you can get Eventide level effects for cheap nowadays on a computer.

Cheers,
Ian

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#1645395 - 02/24/20 11:41 AM Re: Comparable [Re: I_CaneFire]
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 Originally Posted By: I_CaneFire
At the price point of US$500 (currently) the VS2480 is a good way to make a professional recording. It costs less than a powerful computer with all the programs and interfaces.

If you buy a great microphone like a Rode K2 ($500) and record at 24 bit 48Khz or higher you will be able to make a recording that is phenomenal. If you get and less pleasing but great mic like a Rode NT1A and a nice preamp you will also be able to make a professional sounding recording.

If you record with MTP you will have a color on your recording. Some like it, some don't. I don't care for it which means I get less tracks from the VS2480. However I have two VS2480s.

If you are making demos for people or yourself you can use other formats in the VS2480 and it will sound good enough. If you are making hip-hop then it will certainly be good enough.

Cons:
1)It is not quick and easy to get the music from the VS into a computer.
2) It does not have reverse or play backward ability.
3) The plugins on a laptop have become tremendous. So you can get Eventide level effects for cheap nowadays on a computer.

Cheers,
Ian
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2) It does not have reverse or play backward ability.
\:o
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#1645514 - 02/25/20 12:46 PM Re: Comparable [Re: I_CaneFire]
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Hi Mr.Canfire,I have watched your videos, they ar e great.

Meanwhile I use a isa one digital with the VS2480 and have two VS8f-3 cards and a LA1176 plugin and since some days the TC m3000.
This solution offers me the sound that I want.
Maybe I will buy the T-Racks plugin if there will be a chance to get one.
All in all I paid maybe 2000€ for these used things ( incl. VE7000, RBus cable,and even a VS2400, too).
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2xVS2480HD,MB-24, 3xVS8f-3, Plugins: LA-1176,
Antares Autotune, Hi-Res EQ, T-Racks, 2VS8f-3 (for the 2480 slave). Focusrite Isa one A/D, Behringer C4, Rode Nt-2,AE-7000

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#1645551 - 02/25/20 09:13 PM Re: Comparable [Re: daemberg]
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We still use mainly TC Electronics for effects -- digitally connected via the AE 7000-- at about $100 each -- hard to be beat for the multitude of stereo /mono selections ;\)
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#1645978 - 02/29/20 06:33 AM Re: Comparable [Re: C Jo Go]
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Hello everybody . I come back among you ..
Are you still using the Roland vs 2480 as a professional?

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#1646022 - 02/29/20 12:10 PM Re: Comparable [Re: luco]
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 Originally Posted By: luco

Hello everybody . I come back among you ..
Are you still using the Roland vs 2480 as a professional?
Everyday since the VS 880 -- We have REAPER for a mixdown 2 track ( Pro Tools 11 is loaded should someone be so inclined ;\) )
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#1646034 - 02/29/20 02:15 PM Re: Comparable [Re: C Jo Go]
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I am angry .. I was forced to switch to win10 but my vfire works badly on it. it disconnects continuously .. I also have a sonar v 700R which does not work on win10. I am disillusioned.

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#1646090 - 02/29/20 06:10 PM Re: Comparable [Re: luco]
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Still running my main desktop with 7 >> and 3 work in WIN 8 --- don't let the big ones force you over ... \:o

Edited by C Jo Go (02/29/20 06:17 PM)
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#1646153 - 03/01/20 07:20 AM Re: Comparable [Re: luco]
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 Originally Posted By: luco
I was forced to switch to win10 […]
How do you mean, “forced”?

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#1646403 - 03/02/20 08:25 PM Re: Comparable [Re: gyorpb]
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 Originally Posted By: gyorpb
 Originally Posted By: luco
I was forced to switch to win10 […]
How do you mean, “forced”?


Yes, what -- who forced you to 10??
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