#1718360 - 02/23/21 08:33 PM
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E Beau
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Posting covers - do you guys actually get permission when you post covers on Sound Cloud. For example MICHEALSTEELE posted 'We Can Work It Out' Did he call up Paul or George and get permission?  So do you guys just post and hope that it doesn't get taken down?
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#1718362 - 02/23/21 08:46 PM
Re: Sound Cloud
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gonzo
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my cover is called "Interstate Sun".
LOL
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#1718365 - 02/23/21 08:52 PM
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Webster
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I always pay for the streaming rights.
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#1718366 - 02/23/21 08:55 PM
Re: Sound Cloud
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moontan
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i changed the names of my cover tunes so they wouldn't be so obvious.
getting permissions would involve paying money for the rights.
no senses paying for this if that's non-profit and just for fun.
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#1718370 - 02/23/21 09:02 PM
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E Beau
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Webster, can you give me an example of how much the streaming rights are for a typical cover song (if there is such a thing)
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#1718372 - 02/23/21 09:39 PM
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Webster
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This was for a song titled "Daisy" by Stone Temple Pilots. It appears that 100 streams cost $17.00 (I payed for another song titled "Life By The Drop" by Doyle Bramhall and it was the same price):
http://www.harryfox.com
Type: Interactive Streaming
Number of Units: 100
Release Date: 03/01/2018
Song Song Code Artist(s) Play Time Royalty Rate
Royalty Fee
DAISY D3853C PORTERHOUSEMUSIC 2:18
0.0100
$1.00
Royalty Fee Subtotal
$1.00
Processing Fee
$16.00
Total
$17.00
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#1718373 - 02/23/21 09:48 PM
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gonzo
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#1718374 - 02/23/21 09:48 PM
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gonzo
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#1718375 - 02/23/21 09:50 PM
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Webster
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Yep. That's the cost of doing the right thing I guess.
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#1718377 - 02/23/21 10:09 PM
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E Beau
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So if it gets streamed 100 times, do they take it down until you re-up with Harry Fox?
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#1718378 - 02/23/21 10:16 PM
Re: Sound Cloud
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E Beau
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Oh, okay. I looked at the Harry Fox site. That stuff is not very easy to understand. I think I'll just listen to my covers in private then.
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#1718379 - 02/23/21 10:24 PM
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Webster
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So if it gets streamed 100 times, do they take it down until you re-up with Harry Fox?
I can't comment with any authority or certainty - just with what I think I understand about this.
It seems that it is on an "honor" system. My guess is that in the extremely unlikely event that your cover of a song on Soundcloud is discovered by the author/composer/writer (or some other entity that wants to make a big deal out of it) - they would contact Soundcloud and have it blocked or removed. The odds of this seem preposterous, in my view.
Not unlike the millions of unlicensed songs on youtube. Only the artists that really care, or really feel hurt, or that get a lot of attention.... are the ones that youtube will get notified about to take something down.
I have no idea - but I'm pretty sure Soundcloud is not "policing" this sort of thing.
In my view - in most cases - you're not going to get into any "trouble" for not paying for the licensing. Nobody will ever know. For me, I just feel better about being honest and doing the right thing. I've become a bit of a dudley doright in that sense.
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#1718467 - 02/24/21 03:51 PM
Re: Sound Cloud
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gonzo
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if you are going to post at soundcloud,
leave it up til you are close to 100 plays or downloads,
take the song down, put it back up with a slightly different title,
starts the count over.
or sumptin'.
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#1718496 - 02/24/21 06:38 PM
Re: Sound Cloud
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gonzo
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#1718529 - 02/24/21 09:45 PM
Re: Sound Cloud
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Tao Jones
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I say put up your cover, E Beau, and then we can all tell you what to do next.
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