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#182021 - 08/21/03 08:49 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Hook Hook Admin / Slacker Planeteer Registered: 01/03/01 Posts: 6526 Loc: Venice, FL	Well, I might as well add some length to this thread as well! $;\)$ And I see my reply pushed this thread to 9 pages! $\:D$ Hano, the CD is officially in the hands of the United States Postal Service, complete with the "Free Gift" customs sticker on it! [ 08-21-2003: Message edited by: Hook ] _________________________ Hook
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#182022 - 08/21/03 11:43 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
maX maX Planeteer Registered: 02/09/00 Posts: 2547 Loc: San Antonio, TX usa	I did my preliminary mix last night. It's pretty straight-forward, the kind I would do for a band that wanted a "sounds live" mix, the only serious fader moves for lead guitar (to open some space for the vocals). Now, how can I twist & turn it. maX _________________________ Screw the other busquameros. Let them smell their own wrong encouragement. (thanks Dave M) my IAC page: maXwells cafe
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#182023 - 08/26/03 01:26 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Des Des Planeteer Registered: 06/07/00 Posts: 752 Loc: South Euclid, OH	Any progress reports on the mixes? Just curious and excited to hear them... _________________________ --Des
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#182024 - 08/26/03 08:18 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Hano_dup1 Hano_dup1 Planeteer/Artist # 45 Planeteer Registered: 12/15/00 Posts: 11296 Loc: Leuven - Belgium - E.U.	The second Back-Up CD has just arrived with me here. Thanks again HOOK. This is becoming expensive .. and I am most grateful. I will be loading it in tonight .. Man, I wanna hear this .. :rolleyes: Hano $\:\)$ _____________________________________ I'm just grabbing my Tracks Sheets, before I'm going down to my cellar .. _________________________ Hano\'s space . . VSP Artist N°45
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#182025 - 08/26/03 10:39 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Hano_dup1 Hano_dup1 Planeteer/Artist # 45 Planeteer Registered: 12/15/00 Posts: 11296 Loc: Leuven - Belgium - E.U.	It's a working one: Hurray I have just recovered the CD at 20X speed succesfully, I didn't even know it could do that soo fast, and I started listening to all the tracks ... So far I checked every drum track, I played around with some inserts, and tried some intensive EQ, pannings, back to mono ... Track sheet was not fully correct, but I have taken notes .. Friday evening I'll be home alone, so I'll have time to work it til very late ... I'm just typing this, so you guys know I have taken a first REAL listen, and it pleases me so far ... lot's of low in there .. I'm stil getting some new ideas as I type. I just have to let it sink in. It's not going to be an easy mix with 6 tracks. I might have to submix it down to Pro-tools, plan it, .. , I even thought for a moment I could re-record it in MT1 as a new song, so I can mix it better .. not sure yet .. I'll sleep over it first ... More later ... Hano The night _________________________ Hano\'s space . . VSP Artist N°45
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#182026 - 08/28/03 11:24 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Hano_dup1 Hano_dup1 Planeteer/Artist # 45 Planeteer Registered: 12/15/00 Posts: 11296 Loc: Leuven - Belgium - E.U.	Hi, here is a minor update, So far I have made a first digital mix into my Mac. In the mix I have added a modified version of "GT: Acoustic" as Inserts on the drums, and all the other instruments got various degrees of "RV:Small room", with different panning placements. I have used intensive 3-band EQ on Bass and rythem guitar, and I took out 6Db at 600Hz from the lead guitar. So far it sounds pretty good. I have also tried to re-mix Hooks drums, and when I checked, and compared his mixdown to mine, I decided to go for his mixed drum tracks. His was simply better done than mine, so I'm working further from Hooks drum mix. It's an open mix now, and I can hear all the instruments separated and well now. My wife doesn't like the song that much, but she likes the mix so far. I always ask her for a second opinion, when I'm about to close down and save. I have recorded the 6 mixed tracks (on my Mac) back into my VS880EX. All digital. Coax cables. On those two last tracks I have now inserted a home-made MTK Pre-Master patch. It pumps the mix up, in all the dynamics that happen. It's only now that I realise how good the MTK's really sound. They start shining when you work in MASS mode. That FX card works in 24 bit, and it's only now, that it reveils me it's real power. I had never recorded in MASS mode myself. I'm learning a lot about sound definition now. It was pretty hard to make a good balance due to the high amounth of low end that cluttered up my first initial balances. Tomorrow I will be lining up the keyboards in the mix. I hope you've enjoyed the reading. Have a nice day, Hano [ 08-28-2003: Message edited by: Hano ] _________________________ Hano\'s space . . VSP Artist N°45
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#182027 - 08/29/03 02:19 AM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
maX maX Planeteer Registered: 02/09/00 Posts: 2547 Loc: San Antonio, TX usa	I've got a mix I'd like to share. Where can I post an mp3? (My mp3.com site has a 3 week wait). maX _________________________ Screw the other busquameros. Let them smell their own wrong encouragement. (thanks Dave M) my IAC page: maXwells cafe
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#182028 - 08/29/03 07:06 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Des Des Planeteer Registered: 06/07/00 Posts: 752 Loc: South Euclid, OH	maX, If you can, please send me an audio CD of your mix. I'm hoping to put them all on one CD and post them as mp3's. If you want, you can upload your .wav file the same way you got the song data files from my FTP server. _________________________ --Des
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#182029 - 08/30/03 01:25 AM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Hano_dup1 Hano_dup1 Planeteer/Artist # 45 Planeteer Registered: 12/15/00 Posts: 11296 Loc: Leuven - Belgium - E.U.	Hi, Here it's 2AM in the morning, and I am burning a CD for the moment with two mixed versions on it. The first one on the CD I have Pre-Mastered. The second version is the final Mix without the Pre-Mastering. I have had problems, and I was able to solve them thanks to my Mac. In MASS mode you just can't bounce very much INTERNAL and in stereo. So I mixed down six track to the Mac, and re-recorded them onto the VS880EX. Then I added the keyboards, and went back to the Mac. From the Mac I recorded back into my VS, and then I inserted a Pre-Master patch, and bounced internally to what will be found as song 1 on the audio CD .. Man I'm tired now .. $;\)$ I was only wondering to who I have to send it now ? If I would know more about FPT, I could transer it, after I made them into to WAV files. Hano $\:\)$ _________________________ Hano\'s space . . VSP Artist N°45
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#182030 - 08/30/03 03:27 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Des Des Planeteer Registered: 06/07/00 Posts: 752 Loc: South Euclid, OH	Hey Hano, Go ahead and send me your audio CD. Hit me with an email if you need my mailing address. _________________________ --Des
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#182031 - 08/30/03 07:09 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
maX maX Planeteer Registered: 02/09/00 Posts: 2547 Loc: San Antonio, TX usa	Des -- I think I'll mail you the files on CD. Would you rather data files (wav) or a music CD? I'm also working on my 2nd (re)mix. This one's not going to be a conventional mix. I'm going to slice 'n dice & do some (relatively) extreme fx. So I'll send you all the versions on 1 cd. I'm also intrigued by Hano's idea about sending a mix that isn't "mastered." I think I'll send the various mixes and also my attempt at mastering them, to give some flexibility for someone to do a consistant mastering of all the versions. Also, I played my mix for the blues/rock band I'm recording and they whipped out a version too, that I'll send along. This has been a learning experience. For one, I've never tracked/mixed a kick drum with such a high frequency emphasis as Hook used. My first reaction was to cut the highs to give more space for the other instruments and get my typical thump/whump kick sound going. I did end up re-equing the high end, but the final track still had a pronounced high end and I like it. I also wouldn't typically have the rhythm guitar follow the bass line, but that's interesting too. And I ended up using the fx version of the bass track with a few eq tweaks and a tad more compression. Can't wait to hear all the other mixes. How many are mixing the song? Hano, Des, Hook, me. Mike, Ryan -- others? maX _________________________ Screw the other busquameros. Let them smell their own wrong encouragement. (thanks Dave M) my IAC page: maXwells cafe
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#182032 - 08/31/03 01:08 AM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Hano_dup1 Hano_dup1 Planeteer/Artist # 45 Planeteer Registered: 12/15/00 Posts: 11296 Loc: Leuven - Belgium - E.U.	Hi Des, That E-mail is posted from here out. $;\)$ [ 09-02-2003: Message edited by: Hano ] _________________________ Hano\'s space . . VSP Artist N°45
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#182033 - 09/01/03 04:19 AM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Des Des Planeteer Registered: 06/07/00 Posts: 752 Loc: South Euclid, OH	maX--Go ahead and send either one. Doesn't matter to me. Hano--Not following you my brother. Do you need my mailing address? _________________________ --Des
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#182034 - 09/02/03 04:08 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
VKTIM VKTIM Planeteer Registered: 10/16/00 Posts: 37 Loc: NEW BOSTION , OHIO	Hey Guys, I'm hoping to get a mix sent to Des also.. I know Ryan's going to do the instrumental thing for kicks... So I'll do a more traditional thing. It's been great following this thread and getting the chance to contribute the rthymn guitar track. Thanks so much! $\:\)$ Tim
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#182035 - 09/02/03 04:43 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Hook Hook Admin / Slacker Planeteer Registered: 01/03/01 Posts: 6526 Loc: Venice, FL	I think I'll have 1 mix done tonight...I might try some "alternative" mixes if I have time, but the first one will be a "traditional" mix. Cool beans $;\)$ _________________________ Hook
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#182036 - 09/04/03 01:28 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Des Des Planeteer Registered: 06/07/00 Posts: 752 Loc: South Euclid, OH	Fellas, Check your email. I've sent you links to preview my mix and Hano's mix. Peace out. _________________________ --Des
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#182037 - 09/04/03 06:52 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
maX maX Planeteer Registered: 02/09/00 Posts: 2547 Loc: San Antonio, TX usa	Cool -- I better hustle my completed mix to you. maX _________________________ Screw the other busquameros. Let them smell their own wrong encouragement. (thanks Dave M) my IAC page: maXwells cafe
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#182038 - 09/06/03 12:37 AM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Hano Hano Mr. Planeteer Registered: 09/24/99 Posts: 17326 Loc: Belgium - E.U.	Hi, I would really appreciate some suggestions (feedback) from you guys on my current MIX. I'm planning to redo it. Thanks, Hano _________________________ Listen to: VS-Planet Radio or else, enjoy some "Hano & The Men".
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#182039 - 09/09/03 03:19 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Role65 Role65 Planeteer Registered: 07/18/02 Posts: 92 Loc: Ohio	Hano, I thought the mix was pretty good, not really anything I would change. It sounds similar to what I get when I do a volume/verb mix then shoot it to the computer for some overall EQ and Compression with a little tube warmth. Is that the process you used? There's definition yet it's all together if that makes sense to you. I hopefully might get a chance Saturday after the buckeye game of course, $\:\)$ to start mixing. Just started my senior year of college, so I'm a little busier than usual, but I have to make time I really want to do this. Ryan _________________________ If it's not broke.....play harder!!
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#182040 - 09/09/03 05:22 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Delso Delso Planeteer Registered: 06/27/99 Posts: 16177 Loc: the beautiful Blackmore Vale	Forgive me for not reading all eight pages, but I would love an update, on the lines of who wrote it, who performed on it, who actually mixed it and when can the rest of the Planet hear it $\:D$ This is not the first time someone has suggested this, but I am pretty sure that this is the first one that has worked. Congrats! _________________________ Artiste # 2 (those were the days!) VS-Planet Syntax Snob and Deputy Spelling Nazi.
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#182041 - 09/09/03 06:26 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Hook Hook Admin / Slacker Planeteer Registered: 01/03/01 Posts: 6526 Loc: Venice, FL	Delso, Good idea... maX - Author of the song, Keyboards Role65 - Lead Guitar MT1865 - Vocals Des - Bass VKTIM - Rhythm Guitar Hook - Drums Hano - "Official" Mix I think each of us is going to do our own mix, but Hano's will be the one we post in the MP3 forum. I think Hano is working on remixing his version, so hopefully we'll have it available soon! _________________________ Hook
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#182042 - 09/10/03 08:57 AM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Delso Delso Planeteer Registered: 06/27/99 Posts: 16177 Loc: the beautiful Blackmore Vale	Great stuff, can't wait. My collaborations have been limited to one other Planeteer - so far! Wawazzat remixed and burned "From a Train" for a Comp CD for me, in the days when I had a VS840. E Beau laid down some fantastic pedal steel on "Alberta!" Mevv sent me a song - "She Lies" - to work on, but I couldn't improve it! I intend to post some lyrics on my page soon and invite Planeteers to add choons, so that may spark something - general nausea, probably! _________________________ Artiste # 2 (those were the days!) VS-Planet Syntax Snob and Deputy Spelling Nazi.
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#182043 - 09/19/03 01:34 AM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Des Des Planeteer Registered: 06/07/00 Posts: 752 Loc: South Euclid, OH	Fellas, Just a reminder to get me your mixes whenever they are done. Thanks! _________________________ --Des
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#182044 - 04/24/04 05:13 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Silversmith Silversmith Loquacious Planeteer Registered: 03/27/02 Posts: 40001 Loc: Commanda, Canada	Thought I'd bring this to the forefront lads. Hook turned me onto the tune with a mix that he had done and I played it on the radio show and the response has been excellent to better than excellent. I wasn't aware of this thread (I rarely get over into this forum since I have an 1880) at the time of scheduling it so I didn't know the history and it appears that I used a Hook mix (sorry Hano $\:o$ - but I had one of your tunes on the show anyway $\:\)$ "How Do you Manage"). For a bunch of guys that have never met and did their parts individually it is truly amazing! When I first listemed to it I could have sworn this was an established band that had been together for some time. When I schedule the songs, I have to put a band name on it that shows up on the Live365 play window (most often just from the Artist site), so I called this band "880 Musical Chain Letter". Hope ya don't mind. $\:\)$ If you have any other "Musical chain letters" - let me know by email at silversmith@vsplanet.com. It was quite cool and is a good example of the the "Power of the Planet" (also not a bad name for a band $;\)$ ) _________________________ The truth is but a moment's glance beyond the infinite Andy on Soundcloud
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#182045 - 04/24/04 09:35 PM Re: A VS musical chain letter?
Des Des Planeteer Registered: 06/07/00 Posts: 752 Loc: South Euclid, OH	Thank you very much for your kind words. I think we we're all surprised at how good it sounded $;\)$ _________________________ --Des
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