#1076184 - 10/27/11 12:37 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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what is really amazing, is Ihave done searches through google, bing , and anything else out there, using terms like breaking 1680 code, breaking RDAC, 1680 to vav, you name it I tried the combo, thinking surely somebody else had found away to do it, 10 pages, sometimes as high as 15 pages and the only useful links led right back here, or to the good library [which is a brainchild of someone on here] any other forum it led me too, was touting the work done over here and posting links to here. amazing people on this site that even google can't find an alternative to. that is Praise of the highest order, by the way.
someone said earlier in this thread, these guys could have sat on it and sold it, and after all those searches, I have to agree. It is a testament to musicians being a big "family" that they were as generous as they have been. and as I see an update every other page, they continue to work on it. Kudos of the highest order to all who did and continue on this. Thank you so much.
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#1093696 - 01/02/12 04:33 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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bnwitt
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I tried this with a project backup file of the demo song "What you Don't know" on my 2480 and it rips fine but when I try to open the project with reaper I get this message:
"EDL TXT import error 12 EDL header items are missing."
Looking at the txt file that is in the rip folder it only says:
"This directory has files for a song named WhatYouDon O"
I tried VS wave export and it worked fine on the files.
Edited by bnwitt (01/02/12 04:44 PM)
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#1101239 - 01/30/12 02:04 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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klaus dibbelt
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I tried this with a project backup file of the demo song "What you Don't know" on my 2480 and it rips fine but when I try to open the project with reaper I get this message:
"EDL TXT import error 12 EDL header items are missing."
iīm having the exact same problem.
can anyone help, please?
I tried VS wave export and it worked fine on the files.
is that a function within reaper? i canīt seem to find it.
ETA: found wave export, and it works fine.
still having the problem with opening the project in reaper, though.
Edited by klaus dibbelt (01/30/12 02:55 PM)
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#1101270 - 01/30/12 03:48 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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bear
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I think you are trying to open the wrong file in reaper.
In reaper after ripping CD you will have a folder called something like SONG2. Inside the folder there is a file called SONG.VR1.
The SONG.VR1 is the file you need to open in reaper. Use FILE/OPEN PROJECT, and then select the SONG.VR1
If this does not work, then you probably do not have the reaper_vs.dll in the right place.
Also it only works with 32 bit repaer, not 64 bit
If this does not work you probably hav
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#1101388 - 01/30/12 10:31 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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klaus dibbelt
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hey bear, thanks for answering, and for answering so quickly!
I think you are trying to open the wrong file in reaper.
In reaper after ripping CD you will have a folder called something like SONG2. Inside the folder there is a file called SONG.VR1.
The SONG.VR1 is the file you need to open in reaper. Use FILE/OPEN PROJECT, and then select the SONG.VR1
hmm.., is was wondering about that. inside the folder i find (besides all the takes) a file "song.vr6" and a file that carries the name i have given the song (letīs say "cheesytune".
when i go to the "open project" (with "all supported projects" preselected) it just offers me the "cheesytune" file. when trying to open it i get the "12 EDL header items are missing" message.
whereas when i change the preselection to "all files" i see the "song.vr6" file. when trying to open it i get an "unknown extension" error message.
If this does not work, then you probably do not have the reaper_vs.dll in the right place.
it belongs in the "plugins" folder, no?
Also it only works with 32 bit repaer, not 64 bit
ok - i have installed the 64bit version. iīll try it with the 32bit version.
If this does not work you probably hav [/quote]
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#1101403 - 01/30/12 11:51 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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bear
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.VR6 means backup from a 1680/1880. .VR1 is a 2480
You should be fine with the 32 bit version of reaper
Yes the reaper_vs.dll goes in c:\program files\reaper\plugins (presuming a default install)
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#1101411 - 01/31/12 12:24 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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klaus dibbelt
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thanks, itīs downloaded and iīm gonna try it tomorrow.
may i ask another question (unfortunately the search function on vsplanet seems to be broken, so i canīt search if it has already been answered elsewhere):
AVIRA complains about the Cd2Roland.exe, telling me that it contains the malware "TR/Agent.mybk.1". any idea whatīs up with that?
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#1101418 - 01/31/12 12:46 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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bear
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I have had a couple of people tell me that their antivirus is warning them. I have no control over the download site. It might have picked up a virus somehow.Did you download from Hooks site or Danielos?
In any case - delete the Cd2Roland you downloaded. Email me (address is in my profile) and I will send you my totally known clean copy of Cd2roland.exe.
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#1101426 - 01/31/12 01:00 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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bear
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I just tried a download from Hooks site and also got virus warning - I contacted him about it.
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#1101430 - 01/31/12 01:12 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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bear
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If the email is current in your profile Klaus, you should see an email with the files. Scanned clean with everything I have
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#1101489 - 01/31/12 09:06 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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klaus dibbelt
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If the email is current in your profile Klaus, you should see an email with the files. Scanned clean with everything I have
iīve found your email. thanks - what a great service!
iīll try reaper 32b and the new files later today, and get back to you with the results, ok?
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#1101500 - 01/31/12 10:32 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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klaus dibbelt
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some problems persist:
- i have the same issues with the 32b version of reaper (but i would prefer another DAW anyway, so itīs all fine as long as the wave export works)
- "wave export" tells me it misses the RDAC.dll. itīs in your email - but where does it go? (funnily, yesterday wave export worked fine)
- AVIRA gives me a virus alert with the cd2roland.exe from your post, as well.
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#1101511 - 01/31/12 02:04 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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uptildawn
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Hi, jumping in just for a bit...
Bear's already described the path for the .dll a few posts ago. He said this:
"Yes the reaper_vs.dll goes in c:\program files\reaper\plugins (presuming a default install)."
As for the virus alert, since we already know that the files should be clean, it must be that your virus program is mis-identifying the files in that folder. (This has happened repeatedly to me in recent days when including a .cue file in a compressed folder of songs for the recipient to be able to quickly burn a CD and that I know is clean... the virus program just didn't "like" the .cue file)
You should be able to manually place the reaper .dll in the plug-in folder at any rate. Maybe there's a way that you can inform the virus program to ignore that .dll in future scans? Or maybe the virus program will accept it as legit once you've placed it into Reaper's plug-in folder and put it to use?
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#1101517 - 01/31/12 02:49 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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klaus dibbelt
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Hi, jumping in just for a bit...
Bear's already described the path for the .dll a few posts ago. He said this:
"Yes the reaper_vs.dll goes in c:\program files\reaper\plugins (presuming a default install)."
yes...but the RDAC.dll is not the reaper_vs.dll 
in the meantime i have found out where to put it: same folder as the VS Wave Export program.
but wait - now that you mention the reaper_vs.dll...after replacing the 64bit version by the 32bit version i forgot to copy it in the plugins-folder.
letīs see...yes, finally i am able to load the songs. 
As for the virus alert, since we already know that the files should be clean, it must be that your virus program is mis-identifying the files in that folder. (This has happened repeatedly to me in recent days when including a .cue file in a compressed folder of songs for the recipient to be able to quickly burn a CD and that I know is clean... the virus program just didn't "like" the .cue file)
yes, thatīs what iīve been thinking, too. i used to have the same problem with a midiman midisport driver.
Maybe there's a way that you can inform the virus program to ignore that .dll in future scans?
yes, now that itīs official that the file is clean, thatīs what iīm going to do.
so all problems solved. thanks a lot!
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#1121228 - 05/03/12 07:24 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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this is a long thread.
Is there anything about Macs in here ? ? That is ... can all this Reaper business be run on a Mac ? Just wondering.
I'll probably print the whole thread and read.
It is on my list of things to do
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#1121250 - 05/03/12 10:08 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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bear
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Nope, no MAC. No 64 bit reaper either....
BUT once you convert to .wav, either through a PC running reaper or VSWE, then these wav files totally are standard and can be used on mac or pc or anything.
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#1125042 - 05/23/12 01:21 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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wicksbugz
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Hello All,
This is quite the relevant discussion. I thought I was the last mohiccan using the vs 1680 as all of my friends are dominated by Pro Tools. At any rate, I was wondering if we can convert from .wav to roland so that we can import. Even better, can we convert from Mp3 to Roland? Is this possible through Reaper?
Thanks for your support
cheers,
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#1125052 - 05/23/12 02:02 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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uptildawn
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That's one of the hopes I initially had for VirDis... Bill Casey and I spoke about it a few times, but at the end of the discussion I think the answer was always it can't happen because the pre-2480 didn't have wav import... (I'm pretty sure that was the unit that Roland first introduced wav import/export... sorry if I'm off by a model.).
Bill thought it could be possible to take an iso file of a Roland Song and take it apart to extract the files, convert to .wav, edit the file and then return it to the iso group and recreate the VS Song, thereby allowing a person to reload the song into the 1680 (or similar model)... The edited file would have to be exactly the same size and length, I believe... I never got beyond the discussion level and haven't talked to Bill in many, many months about it.
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#1125520 - 05/25/12 12:49 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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wicksbugz
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hmmmm.....worth a shot I guess....thanks
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#1156373 - 09/16/12 06:53 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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C64Phreak
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Hello...I installed an IDE to SD adapter in my Roland VS-880EX and it works great at recording tracks to the SD card. I now want to convert the tracks to WAV. When I take the SD card out of the recorder and insert it in the computer I can only see the song folders (for example SONG0001.VR9). I cannot see the actual VR9 files in the folder. It just looks like a couple files in the folder with dots that the computer does not recognize. I've tried both Mac and PC. I was hoping that using the SD card as a hard drive replacement would be an easy way to transfer files, but I can't see the files. Any ideas?
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#1156418 - 09/16/12 04:14 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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bear
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Have you tried VSWE? File systems created with the IDE system in the VS cannot be seen correctly with windows, but should still work with the VSWE program
File systems created through SCSI CAN be seen by windows
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#1156576 - 09/17/12 06:54 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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C64Phreak
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Thank you so much! I figured out the problem and this may help others with a similar setup. I was using a Windows emulator on a Macbook Pro. I run Parallels 5 w/Windows XP for PC applications. When I put the SD card in the Mac, the Mac had captured the card and was not available as a regular drive in Win XP after I booted up Parallels. The SD card was showing up as a network drive in XP and was not available to the VSWE program for whatever reason. The key was to first boot up the Parallels program running Win XP and then insert the SD card in the Mac. The Mac then asks if you want the card available to the Mac or PC. If you say PC, then it shows up as a regular drive in Windows and is fully available to the VSWE program. It worked like a charm and I was able to extract all VR9 files to WAV files! Thank you so much...and sorry to post in multiple areas. This has completely breathed new life into my VS-880EX!
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#1184920 - 12/20/12 04:38 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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jonesey
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So I decided to try this out on an old laptop with only a few programs on it that runs vista.
SOOO, I got to step 5, but when I type the name of the folder i created on the c drive it tells me that it is not a recognized command. Has my playtime with wavs in Reaper ended before it has begun??
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#1184992 - 12/20/12 08:00 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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uptildawn
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So I decided to try this out on an old laptop with only a few programs on it that runs vista.
SOOO, I got to step 5, but when I type the name of the folder i created on the c drive it tells me that it is not a recognized command. Has my playtime with wavs in Reaper ended before it has begun??
Sounds like you are not typing in the command correctly. It has to be exact, or it won't work... spaces, no spaces, everything perfectly.
To be able to help, we'd need to know exactly what your command line entries have been, or you'd have to set up your own to be exactly like the example.
Even though I got it working that way, myself, I've always been bothered by the need to know and remember the exact way to enter command line stuff. Maybe I'm lazy, but I'd just as soon use VSWaveExport and bear's cd2roland tool that comes with VSWE and skip all the dos command line stuff (because it's taken care of for you, basically). I'd post a link, except that I see my usual link to those tools is no longer working....... Drop me a PM with your email and I could send you a copy that I know is working and virus-free.
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#1185001 - 12/20/12 08:37 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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jonesey
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Thanks man! I sent you a PM.
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#1187150 - 12/28/12 07:22 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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Andy D
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Hi - this thread helped me immensely. I can't seem to find out how to fix this one thing though - is there a way to maintain the order of the virtual tracks when dumping from Reaper to wav files? As far as I can tell, Reaper doesn't put them out in any specific order.
Thanks!!!!!!
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#1187184 - 12/28/12 09:42 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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uptildawn
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If I recall (it's been quite a while), Reaper lays out virtual tracks one after the other, in sequence from t1/v1-t1/v..., then t2/v1-t2/v..., etc.
I always wished that Reaper also had virtual layers and could keep everything that wasn't v1 in order on the layers. Of course, I haven't updated Reaper in quite some time.... Has it ever evolved to that stage where the VS is concerned?.... or was the ability to import VS songs strictly a result of third party work (the .dll plug-in) and never developed beyond the basic ability to import?
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#1198600 - 02/12/13 04:35 AM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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TreeDragon7
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does all this reaper and vs file conversion work on windows 7 now ?
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#1198655 - 02/12/13 03:22 PM
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The_Phantum
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does all this reaper and vs file conversion work on windows 7 now ?
Yes. I am running Reaper v4.32 with the VS plugin on Win7 and I have successfully ripped backup CD's from my 1880 and imported the projects. I have also exported from those projects to Wav files from Reaper.
I will say I have not done it since I did my SD conversions. now I just "copy playable" to an SD card, copy those files to the PC and open them with Reaper.
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#1198677 - 02/12/13 04:28 PM
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TreeDragon7
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ive dissed reaper before but from what ive seen and heard so far lately its absolutley awesome.
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#1208373 - 04/01/13 02:36 PM
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seafoam_green
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Hi Guys , RE; Conversion of Roland VS11680 Backup CD files to WAV files , & Windows 7 64 Bit ?
(sorry to bump an old thread) ...,
I need to know if all these PROGRAMMES (ie; vs wave export /.bat file) that are used for converting old Roland VS1680 Backup CD's into WAV files will work with WINDOWS 7 , 64 Bit ??
..., if they do still work , is there anything I should be aware of to make the extraction / conversion process a smooth one ?
...., I am now using a MBox3 Pro with Pro Tools 10, and Id love to import all my old VS1680 stuff into Pro Tools ..., as my eyes are now too dim these days to focus on that little 1680 screen ( plus the editing in Pro Tools is awesome .
For any replies I am truly gratefull
Best Regards to All
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#1217361 - 05/21/13 10:55 AM
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dingdangdoo
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hi can anyone help me, im a novice with this, i no longer have a vs2480 but still have lots of data backup cds, can anybody help me get the wavs off the cds so i can use them in another daw.
help pleeeeeeese
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#1224131 - 06/17/13 06:35 PM
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sonoftherenegade
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Hello, thanks for these thoughtful instructions! I have a modest recording studio, one of my clients has some older demos on his VS1680. He is now a Pro Tools user and wants to sell the VS machine, but first asked me to export the demo versions out of the VS for him.
So I've come across this insightful thread and even tracked down a PC (I'm a mac user) with reaper on it, through a friend! Excited to be on my way to exporting the files, but I'm getting stuck right off the bat and looking for any help or suggestions.
I cannot seem to successfully create a back up CD. I've been over the manual multiple times with no luck.
The CDR drive is a QPS 2X write SCSI. While the VS machine seems to read the back up discs just fine, none have been readable by another computer. The PC reads it as a blank disc, my mac says 'not readable - eject,' a message I haven't seen before.
Any thoughts or ideas on this would be greatly appreciated. Am I missing a CD finalizing stage or something? Thanks so much!
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#1224132 - 06/17/13 06:49 PM
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bear
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@DingDang --
I never saw your post until now - did you get it working?
@SonOfR ---
First - email me and I will send you most current known good versions of the software for the ripper and VSWE and the reaper dll - the download links posted are getting a bit iffy...
Second - it is entirely normal you cannot read the backup discs with a PC or a MAC - it is not in a format they understand. You HAVE to to use the ripper program to get the files in a form windows understands
You can do this 2 ways -
1. Running the ripper as a standalone app - either from a command window or driven by a .bat file
2. Running the ripper as a shell program out of VSWE
Once the backup cd has been ripped to form the roland file structure, you can either use reaper or VSWE to convert the VS recorded tracks to normal wav files.
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#1226396 - 06/25/13 10:41 PM
Re: *** FunkyBeat's VS CD Backup to WAV detailed GUIDE ***
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sonoftherenegade
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Registered: 06/17/13
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Thanks very much for the response. It makes sense to me now, that the CD would not be readable by normal computer browsing. And I definitely appreciate the contact for getting a hold of the ripper software.
Unfortunately, I've hit another obstacle, I'm starting to think this machine has it in for me, haha.
Although I've successfully created 3 backup discs now, all readable by the VS 1680, I am now receiving this error prompt whenever I try to burn a backup CD: 'Track number error' 'Function Failed.'
I've tried slimming down to one song per back up CD, tried several different songs, and tried a full reboot and multiple CDRs. I found a thread here where someone overcame this issue seemingly with luck? And another member did track cuts of some sort to solve the problem? My trouble is that I'm just trying to export these files for a client, I have never recorded or even played anything back on the unit, I have no idea how to make track cuts or edits to the audio. And honestly, I may abandon this project if that is what is involved.
Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated, I'm really trying to get these things onto a disc so that I can proceed with the ripper program!
Thanks!
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