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#1645433 - 02/24/20 11:39 PM Ram question
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Hey folks! I'm recording my main tracks on my 1680 (which I am very comfortable with) and backing up to Virdis, then rendering wav files and importing them into Reaper.

When I play the reaper program the playback sometimes stops for a few seconds.

My computer is windows 10 64 bit with 4gb ram.

Do you think upping the ram will smooth out the playback stops?


Edited by RD (02/24/20 11:40 PM)
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#1645439 - 02/25/20 12:11 AM Re: Ram question [Re: RD]
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If all you're doing is playing back the raw tracks from a VS project, even if it has 16-20 virtual tracks as well as the top 8, there should be absolutely no playback issues because of Reaper or the tracks. You should be able to easily handle that simple task on even an old PIV pc with 2GB of ram.... ask me, I know. \:\)

You might want to share with us as many details about your pc specs, peripheral things connected, tasks other than audio it performs and whatever else you can think of that could be taxing the machine. Background tasks are especially troublesome, as is an active wireless internet connection and sometimes even other wireless gear (although I've seen no interference with wireless mice and keyboards since letting go of Win XP, really).

Give us what you can of how it's all set up and maybe we can help you diagnose and solve the playback trouble. Please include your interface and settings, as well as Reaper settings having to do with how it's connecting to you interface. Report any other issues you may be experiencing with this system as well (if any).
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#1645468 - 02/25/20 03:57 AM Re: Ram question [Re: uptildawn]
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Thanks Dan! I'll share this with Ben my computer setup guy, and get back shortly...
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#1645550 - 02/26/20 02:34 AM Re: Ram question [Re: RD]
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So, here is what I can say...

I don't have an interface for the computer with Reaper hooked up. I only import wav files from the Virdis program and work with those... I'm still recording everything into the vs-1680 because I really like that unit.

I copy pasted your reply Dan, and sent it to my nephew Ben who's our it person for our studio. He gave me the following information to share with you.

"It's a Dell Laptop (Latitude E6220) with a 120GB HP SSD, 2nd gen i5, 4GB of DDR3 RAM running windows 10 pro. This laptop passes all of Dell's pre boot diagnostic tests and all other applications run as expected.
The only thing this laptop does is run Microsoft office applications (Access 2016) and Piano tuning software (Tunelab, never open when Reaper is running)

The problem persists even if the wifi is turned off with the hardware switch.

We've created a power plan specifically for reaper use and changed settings found in this document *attached* through page 28."

Ben has also told me to try the reaper program on my studio PC where we loaded at first. For some reason I don't seem to be using that computer is often as I do my laptop described above... Probably because it is in fact a laptop and I can be anywhere with it and open the programming mix.

It does the skip even with no USB plugged in, no wi-fi energized, and with our power settings set for audio mixing.

It may not be the end of the world since it doesn't appear that jumbled up the audio when it happens, and I'm not recording in real time two Reaper at this point. But it's annoying and I really would like it to smooth out.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts! Sure appreciate it.


Edited by RD (02/26/20 02:37 AM)
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#1645552 - 02/26/20 03:24 AM Re: Ram question [Re: RD]
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1- WiFi - I think what matters more than turning off the hardware switch, is disabling it in the software to keep it from searching for a connection in the background, while you're working in Reaper. Although I will say that I never even think of turning it off while simply playing tracks in my own decade-old Lenovo Thinkpad with Win7.

2- Win10 is proving to be a beast to maintain user-specific settings, since it often will reset things when it performs its updates. All sorts of processes can be stomping on the audio needs in Win10 (more so than with past operating systems, I think). There are some good process monitoring software that some on the SW Studio forums have been using in order to track down persistent and nagging background things that interfere with the realtime live mix processing necessary for (especially) SAC to operate (Software Audio Console). You might look around for something like that - process lasso is one name, I think??

3- Is it possible that your laptop ssd is sluggish and not keeping up with the demands of realtime audio multitrack playback? You don't mention and effects, samples, softsynths, etc... does this mean you aren't running anything like this? If you are, that may put a strain on playback, as well as anything that requires realtime sample rate conversions (which Reaper may be capable of doing - I know that a lot of Reaper's design was influenced by SAW Studio and SAW does realtime sample rate conversion in order to mix tracks with multiple sample rates.)

4- Make sure that the VirDIS/VS scsi is not active while playing back tracks in Reaper - or at least try turning that off, if you have been leaving it active....... It may or may not be affecting playback.

5- Do you have any other multitrack software installed on this machine? If so, try some similar track count testing with that daw. I'm not sure what other free or nearly free daw tools there are lately, but SAW Basic, Lite and Full all have demo versions which you could try some tests with. SAW has a very, very light footprint and doesn't bury itself all over your computer, so there's no fear of kludge and very painless installation and uninstallation routines.

Not sure what else at the moment. I will think on this some more... hoping you have some things to report, too.
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#1645596 - 02/26/20 05:38 PM Re: Ram question [Re: uptildawn]
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Thanks so much Dan!!! I'll munch on this for a bit...back shortly!

Edited by RD (02/26/20 05:38 PM)
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