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#1654634 - 04/24/20 12:53 PM Is the VS series still viable?
Technomania Offline
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Don't shoot me as I'm just askin. With all the available options in software DAW and the limitations in the hardware DAW market does it make sense to keep these machines? I do like the fact they can record 8 tracks at once and they have built in effects. just seeing what others think.

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Edited by Technomania (04/24/20 01:25 PM)
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#1654643 - 04/24/20 02:22 PM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: Technomania]
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I use both a 1680 and 2480 every day for basic recording. Quick and easy since I have a comfort level with it. Plug and play, built in effects, virtual tracks out the wazoo that are easy to comp from, no outboard interface needed for your 8 tracks at a time, something that doesn't catch a virus because you stayed up all night gaming or trolling the internet; etc. You do have to eventually send over your finished stereo file to a computer to share or post though.
The only time one of my VS machines crashed is when I fell down some stairs while carrying it.
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#1654810 - 04/25/20 03:41 AM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: Heartwaves]
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Still love my VS 2000!
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#1654942 - 04/26/20 06:56 AM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: Technomania]
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 Originally Posted By: Technomania
Don't shoot me as I'm just askin. With all the available options in software DAW and the limitations in the hardware DAW market does it make sense to keep these machines? I do like the fact they can record 8 tracks at once and they have built in effects. just seeing what others think.

Technoman


Recording eight tracks at once and the (ancient) f/x are what's still viable. And it has MIDI so you can sync. But it's a proprietary recording format and eventually you have to get your tracks to the computer. Replacing the hard drive with a SD card is good upgrade.

It would be a good idea to compare the cost to a Zoom R24. Unless you need MIDI sync, the Zoom R24 would probably be a better choice.

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#1654959 - 04/26/20 01:30 PM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: Slabraton]
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VS-2000CD records uncompressed, straight audio and has a USB port for track export to a software DAW.
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#1655190 - 04/27/20 10:30 PM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: gyorpb]
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If it works keep it. Mine started breaking buttons, like the stop button and the start button. Kept it for a while but knew I would have to move on to software based recording. So I gave my limping VS to a friend and he likes it. It is a solid machine, but all machines have a lifespan. I moved to Studio One. It's great and doesn't take much of a learning curve. Has endless amounts of tracks. Good luck.
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#1657518 - 05/10/20 02:21 PM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: Technomania]
aanon Offline
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I'm another saying yes. The vs2000cd does things you should be able to take for granted in a DAW, but really can't. Input monitoring is very low latency. Audio always ends up where it should. 5 hour live recordings can be relied upon. Midi clock to drive other hardware behaves perfectly. The latter really matters to me, and to get this from a DAW requires all kinds of efforts.

On top of this, you have a perfectly matched control surface. It makes the vs2000 a breeze for tracking without distraction.

The ability to move wave and project files in and out via USB is almost unbelievable. It's even pretty quick, all things considered. With this, It becomes quite practical to use the vs2000 for tracking purposes together with a DAW like reaper for when there is a need to do complex edits or collaborate with others.

So I say learn to use it well, and enjoy.

May our vs machines live long and prosper!

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#1661513 - 05/25/20 07:11 PM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: aanon]
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I started with a 2400. Due to some of the drawbacks others have mentioned, I switched to a software system. I didn't like the sound quality. I bought a different one, Mixcraft. Great reviews, but I found you have to watch 2 or 3 youtube videos to do anything. And the sound? Same thing. All my projects sounded tinny. Now those of you with protools have the best computer system. No doubt. But I can't afford a full blown platform.
I just bought another 2400 with a -3 card and everything is simple. The sound has body. Masters sound very good.
So, IMO, if you really want excellence in a DAW, protools is the way. The Roland has close to the same sound quality, but you have to work a little harder for it.
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#1671868 - 07/19/20 08:16 PM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: Technomania]
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Although I have software too many options on my computer, I'm still comfortable with my VS2k. The expense of duplicating all the faders and inherent software on my VS..eh..it's does what I need very well. I transfer to m
the computer for edits, tweaks and "mastering".
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#1675053 - 08/11/20 03:02 AM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: MeteorSharks]
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 Originally Posted By: MeteorSharks
I started with a 2400. Due to some of the drawbacks others have mentioned, I switched to a software system. I didn't like the sound quality. I bought a different one, Mixcraft. Great reviews, but I found you have to watch 2 or 3 youtube videos to do anything. And the sound? Same thing. All my projects sounded tinny. Now those of you with protools have the best computer system. No doubt. But I can't afford a full blown platform.
I just bought another 2400 with a -3 card and everything is simple. The sound has body. Masters sound very good.
So, IMO, if you really want excellence in a DAW, protools is the way. The Roland has close to the same sound quality, but you have to work a little harder for it.
Ron

Don't mean to sidetrack the topic of this thread, but if you like Protools, which is good and does an excellent job, Studio One is the answer to the cost. I tried both and they are very good, however Studio One is a much better price with the exact same quality. Thought I'd point it out to you.
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#1677397 - 08/27/20 02:31 PM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: Slabraton]
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I have a zoom r8 and r16, and I like them. But the faders are crap when compared to the roland faders, and having everything laid out over more real estate sure makes it easier to get the right knob at the right time. Also the tiny zoom lcd display, makes the roland LCD seem gigantic.

It really gets down to process, what can get the job done the fastest and easiest with the quality you want. Some folks record on an Iphone, bless their hearts.

you no longer have to use a single device for all your recording. the price of gear is so cheap, you can use a roland for tracking and basic processing and then move it over to Reaper to dial in some plugins and add vst instruments, and mix it down in the computer if thats whats comfortable for you.

I really like having a stand alone machine to capture ideas in a way and a quality that I can build on. the roland gear is ready to go in under a minute and you don't have to worry about getttin an email or a call in the middle of recording.

The zoom also works well as a sketch pad, it boots in under a minute and you are ready to go, the r8 only does 2 tracks on recording, the r16, does more but the software is harder to understand, routing tracks is not intutive.

so yeah, if you want to, Roland Daws are still capable of making magic, but most of the magic is in your fingers, not in any machine or computer.

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#1854716 - 07/01/23 01:58 AM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: aanon]
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Aanon: Hope you're still out there. PLEASE explain how you can transfer PROJECT files via USB to a computer. I've got a VS2000CD and so does my cousin. Only way we can share files is by burning a backup CD and mailing it. If what you say is actually possible .... PLEASE TELL ME HOW. This is exactly what we're needing. -Furry-
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#1906196 - 06/06/24 06:18 AM Re: Is the VS series still viable? [Re: Furry]
Eejit Offline
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Is the series still viable?
All things considered, I suppose "no" is the answer...
But considering the number and range of VS machines still out there - and the fact that they are now unsupported by Roland/Boss - why not reveal the secrets of the "proprietary recording format"?

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