#1264593 - 12/11/13 10:54 PM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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bear
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ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT WORK!!! Do not try it, you will probably fry something...
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#1264774 - 12/12/13 06:14 PM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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Plugg3dIn
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ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT WORK!!! Do not try it, you will probably fry something...
ok thanks.
Edited by Plugg3dIn (12/18/13 07:16 PM)
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#1264904 - 12/13/13 02:59 AM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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uptildawn
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You need to be sure and use a scsi-based external drive....... and then, only one that you are certain can do VS data backup and recovery....... not simply write audio cd's.
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#1265003 - 12/13/13 06:38 PM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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europa_man
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Give this site a check:
http://www.ebay.ca/usr/pro_oem_stereo
I just installed a 20 gig hard drive in my VS-1680.
You may want to consider just replacing the hard drive to get up & running again.
Would be the quickest & easiest way to go until you find a SCSI drive.
Edited by europa_man (12/13/13 06:41 PM)
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#1265164 - 12/14/13 05:19 PM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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Plugg3dIn
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I'm just looking for an easy way to transfer the audio files to my mac.
I picked this up on ebay, I hope it will work...:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181281572130
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#1265170 - 12/14/13 06:02 PM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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bear
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It will not work. All of the USB to SCSI adapters are meant to adapt a computer MASTER to a SCSI SLAVE (like a harddrive or a zip drive). The VS is a SCSI MASTER... best case NOTHING will happen... worst case something will smoke...
Now if you got a EXTERNAL SCSI drive, you could use it to write stuff from the VS, then unplug it and (presuming this adapter works with the drive) plug it into the computer. However, then you are left with files you can do nothing with on a MAC - VSWE only works under windows.
The ONLY way to directly hook up the SCSI port on a VS to a computer is through VIRDIS, and I do not think it works with MAC...
Your best option is to use the CD ripper and VSWE -- but again no MAC. You can run under bootcamp though..
But you are going to have to introduce windows into your workflow somehow. Either with a separate machine or a separate OS partition under bootcamp or parallels.
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#1265204 - 12/14/13 08:40 PM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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Plugg3dIn
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Ok thanks
Edited by Plugg3dIn (12/18/13 07:17 PM)
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#1265352 - 12/15/13 08:19 AM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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Plugg3dIn
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How about external scsi card reader
Edited by Plugg3dIn (12/18/13 07:17 PM)
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#1265353 - 12/15/13 08:26 AM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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bear
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Reaper plugin is windows only
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#1265491 - 12/15/13 08:44 PM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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jerry1d
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Bear, you are truly a mentor to us here, very generous with your time and sharing of knowledge. Please don't ever go, you are a true inspiration.
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#1268520 - 12/29/13 06:21 PM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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rikusan
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so, to beat this thing to death (1880 owner here) virdis is the way to go. in another thread where this subject was being bantered about people talked about using a CF / SD card set up. i am wondering if that kind of set up would work in my CD rack for some recording but mostly back up and exporting to PC purposes
and HAPPY NEW YEAR everybody
god, i can't wait to get off being on call, i need a drink !
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#1268556 - 12/29/13 08:00 PM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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uptildawn
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... i am wondering if that kind of set up would work in my CD rack for some recording but mostly back up and exporting to PC purposes...
Absolutely!
Used to be a very cheaply obtained DIY solution, too... but not so much anymore. Someone figured out how valuable those SCSI bridge cards (a major component of the conversion box) were becoming to VS users and suddenly there weren't any used cards around anymore (a shock to me!). New cards run in the neighborhood of $160-$250 (US).
I managed to make a couple of these units up for myself and a friend a few years ago... the first one cost me about $100, including the case and power supply, but the one I made for the friend cost me $150 just for the SCSI bridge card (a year later).
I've got a conversion made up in a CD Rack, by the way, so I can speak from personal experience that this works pretty well. Mine uses a SCSI/IDE bridge (not SATA) and there is a significant amount of lag time from button push to reaction when operating from this external drive... maybe more so when using an IDE hard drive, as opposed to an SD or CF card.... but a lag nonetheless. I don't know if that lag time is improved by the use of a SCSI/SATA bridge card.
Everything else about it is for the convenience and I really like that about it. I've created converters for ide hard drive, SD and CF cards... all useable in this one CD Rack drive bay.
I didn't go with the preinstalled Glyph drive tray however. They just seemed to expensive for my tastes... don't know about availability or prices these days, but worth looking into, since you'll need a compatible caddy to mount your adapter into, unless you plan on just not incorporating the installed system into your design. I found an alternaive drive tray and caddy
for my own setup. That way, I could slide the entire caddy/case in and out of the Rack and lock it into place as you would with any removable drive system.
Hope this gives you some ideas. (Sorry if this is regurgitated nonsense from my previous posts in this thread... I didn't go back and re-read all the previous posts) 
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#1721413 - 03/16/21 09:09 PM
Re: Song Vault: Resource Thread for 1680/1880/1824 Data Backup (CD + SCSI HD)
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danhames
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Hi everyone,
I'm wondering if any of you have the latest information on CD-R drives?
I have dug out my old VS-1680 and a stack of CDs where all my old music is stored, inaccessible because my Roland issued QueDrive QPS-525 failed long ago.
- Now it's 2021, do we have an up-to-date list of what SCSI CD-R drives are still around, compatible with the 1680?
- Is there yet any alternative means of accessing the data on these old CDs?
I've been researching this every couple of years or so, all in vain.
Thanks!
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