#1838635 - 03/18/23 01:00 AM
Fragmented HD?!
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KromVS2400CD
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Registered: 02/17/15
Posts: 21
Loc: Holland
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Hi there,
I used to be active on this forum with great pleasure. I've owned the 1880, the 2000, 2400CD and currently using the 2480DVD.
I hope the knowledge on this forum will help me out with a major fuckup i currently have to deal with.
In short: concerning the VS2400CD: did not defragment/re-format the HD> issues with backing up projects> cannot write or backup projects due to failing of burning any cd's> tested the cdr with audio cd and cleaned it no problem with that so it must be (as stated on the Rolandus site) due to the fragmented Hard drive.
Fo®matting / defrag means a clean sweap and i loose all music.
Also the machine needs a new battery.
So.
How do i recover/save or read out the projects stored on the internal HD? Because now i'm exporting track per track manually and thats pretty time consuming. Too time consuming.
I hope someone can help me out.
Big up, Ro.
Edited by KromVS2400CD (03/18/23 01:00 AM)
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#1838667 - 03/18/23 07:17 AM
Re: Fragmented HD?!
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gyorpb
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Registered: 05/11/19
Posts: 298
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Owner’s Manual, p101: “Backup”.
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#1838674 - 03/18/23 09:23 AM
Re: Fragmented HD?!
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KromVS2400CD
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Registered: 02/17/15
Posts: 21
Loc: Holland
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You appearantly don't understand the question
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#1838684 - 03/18/23 11:45 AM
Re: Fragmented HD?!
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gyorpb
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Registered: 05/11/19
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Ah. I see. Seems you’re SOL, then, as there are no other storage options on the 2400.
Although… how is your hard drive partitioned? Are all partitions full?
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#1838875 - 03/19/23 02:07 AM
Re: Fragmented HD?!
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KromVS2400CD
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Registered: 02/17/15
Posts: 21
Loc: Holland
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I'm checking out VirDis and VS Wave Import, i guess that's the way to go although my search for the Virdis (Ebay?) led to nothing.
https://www.virtualscsi.com
https://www.virdis2.com/home.html
Infro from http://www.thegoodlibrary.com/VSWaveExport.php : Note that you can not directly connect the VS to a PC. Any tries to do so may damage your equipment! To connect the internal drive of the VS to a computer, you must take the drive out of the VS and build it into your computer.
So 1, i have to get the internal drive out of the machine, into a computer. Get Virdis en VS Wave export and i'll be able to tranfer all that's on the partitions which i can't backup by burning a cd-r (as .wav, as data) to a computer, do i understand this correct? And only when the projects/data is not corrupted due nto fragmentation ofcourse.n
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#1838886 - 03/19/23 02:58 AM
Re: Fragmented HD?!
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uptildawn
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Registered: 12/15/01
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There are many details to carefully consider in order to set your pc up to use VSWE successfully, though once accomplished, pulling songs and converting tracks to .wav files will be a breeze... well, depending on a lot of "if"s.
Depending on your PC's operating system (win10, 11, 8, xp, etc.) - the older, the better, frankly, because of how aggressively newer systems attack the CD2Roland ripper exe needed to read the vs files off of backup cd-r discs and load them into vswe for wav export. This may not be an issue, if you're not ripping tracks from backup discs and IF vswe still works without the ripper exe file installed (I don't know for sure, since I've always needed the ripper to some degree or another.
But turning off antivirus and creating an exceptions list in the antivirus program might be a must, because of false positives of Trojan files stemming from the ripper exe.
Depending on your HD - I take it that the vs2400 uses a standard 3.5" drive and not a 2.5" laptop drive? Regardless, you may find it convenient to use an external usb hd drive docking station rather than opening up the pc to install the vs drive inside.... But, much depends on #1 - whether the vs hd is sata or the older ide style and #2 whether to usb interface you choose plays nice with the vs hd (I've lost 2 drives due to some incompatibility with usb hard drive interfaces - so be wary before turning over your most precious project drive to the method.
Also, depending on #1 whether you can successfully download and open vswe without windows grabbing and deleting the cd2roland exe file from the package - even if you don't rip cd-r backup discs, possibly... and #2 whether you take the proper steps to set up the necessary file paths for exporting wav files. At the very least, be sure to export each project's wav files to it's own uniquely named folder too avoid possible contamination - more so when ripping projects than with actual exporting wav files.
Also, understand that these wav files will be "dry" tracks - no fx, or processing applied at all. They will be, however, automatically made to be in sync with each other, when imported into your favorite daw for editing, mixing, etc. AND if a track on the vs consisted of multiple region chunks and edits, you can rest assured that the resulting wav file will be a single, contiguous track.
One other point about setting in vswe - leave most everything on the main page set as it is by default. You really only need to highlight a project for export, select the tracks (and v-tracks) to export from the matrix, fill in (or append) the destination filepath for the exported wav files (vswe will even create the new folder for you, if it doesn't find the name you write in) and then hit EXPORT.
A Giant word of caution, if you have to connect your VS hd to the pc in any way - DO NOT WRITE anything to the vs drive from windows. Even without writing anything on purpose, windows may make your vs hd unreadable by the vs, when/if you reinstall it there and it MIGHT not even let you reformat it (this is just my personal experience and extra-cautious warning). Testing things out with a spare drive and some scratch vs projects first might be worth the time and effort.
I'm sure there's things I'm missing, but hopefully this helps.
Edited by uptildawn (03/19/23 03:03 AM)
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#1838918 - 03/19/23 01:10 PM
Re: Fragmented HD?!
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KromVS2400CD
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Registered: 02/17/15
Posts: 21
Loc: Holland
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Thank you so much!
I'll have to take some time to think about all of this.
Very useful info!
Back soon.
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#1839351 - 03/21/23 01:03 PM
Re: Fragmented HD?!
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reddog
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Registered: 04/10/07
Posts: 182
Loc: London, England
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Hi,
I'm a VS2000CD and Linux user, I no longer run win$oze.
In addition to what uptildawn posted you can attach the VS internal drive to a PC running Linux and mounted it read only.
But what ever method you use to mount - the drive has a number of partitions (these are call drives in the VS!) each containing multiple project directories. The files with extension .VS2 will be Roland’s RDAC formatted audio files.
They can easily be converted using to wave files onto another drive using a RDAC to Wav file converter program.
I have done this and it so much faster that using the CD or USB!
woof.
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