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#1854713 - 07/01/23 01:47 AM Backup files over the internet
Furry Offline
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As the title implies, I'm looking for a way for me and my cousin to share project backup files from our VS2000CDs without having to burn one and put it in the mail. Seems I've seen somewhere here at VS-Planet about someone who would backup to computer via USB and then somehow upload it. I couldn't find anything like that in the manual. Am I wasting my time chasing that potential deal? I know there are some programs out there for transferring large files, but am iffy on it. First of all: Manual only refers to USB showing all partitions (icon) on the computer. I've done that. Seen that, but have not found a way to actually back up a single project via USB to my iMac. If I can get that done I can then pursue finding a program that would handle the size (less than 780 mb, me thinks). Somebody please say "YOU'RE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE. CAN'T BE DONE" or just explain it to me. Thanks. -Furry-
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#1855232 - 07/07/23 03:47 AM Re: Backup files over the internet [Re: Furry]
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Registered: 05/03/20
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Loc: Leeuwarden, The Netherlands
Hi there. You both have a VS-2000, right? It will not work otherwise.

I have a VS-2000cd myself. And YES! You can indeed back-up projects via USB to the storage of
the connected computer. But it all must be done in a very specific way.
You must first press the USB knob on the VS and establish a connection to the computer.
Next, you can select files to be uploaded to the computer. BUT!.....BUT!......... Bud.. Spencer!

_ __ ___VERY IMPORTANT!___ __ _!
If you or your cousin want to put them back on one of the VS-2000s you CANNOT and must most definitely NOT put them just anywhere! They must be send to a specific folder on the VS. Otherwise they won't show up in de recorder. (I think afterwards you can move them, but not sure.)
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_ __ ___also VERY IMPORTANT!___ __ _!
Connecting en disconnecting must be done in a certain way.
Like I said. 1. Push the USB knob on the VS and establish an connection to the computer. (Shows up there.)
And after your done with your files you MUST disconnect like this: First (If it's possible, it's a long time ago that I used it.)
Try from the computer to disconnect from the VS
It's the Safely Remove Hardware icon in the taskbar that you need to click and disconnect the Roland VS
Secondly [push the USB knob] NO, that's wrong. Apparently you push F6 (exit) on the VS-2000 to disconnect from the USB.
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Anyway. Please take care that you both learn the proper procedure for all of this. Or you'll run the risk that the data becomes corrupted. I never had any problem with it. But make sure you keep this in mind. Good luck.

O, just one more thing:
Use the computers just for the storing and moving/ uploading part.
Don't try to open or otherwise manipulate the project(s) files, or the VS-2000 might not take them back in...
# This is not totaly wrong, but also not totaly right:
You can, so I've read in the manual (that I just now found back in a folder that I totaly forgot) convert roland VS files to wav. en vice versa. But I never used that. If I would move my songs to my computer I would never finish a song.

By the way. This all is talked about in the manual. It's where I've got this information from.
Don't know what page thow. And it is unlikely, but maybe it was in the Appendix that followed..(?)
# No it is there. See my next post.

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Greetings from Jeroen. aka MusicianJerry aka
The (street-)musician
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#1855239 - 07/07/23 04:49 AM Re: Backup files over the internet [Re: MusicianJerry]
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Thanks, Jeroen. I appreciate it. -Furry-
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#1855242 - 07/07/23 05:47 AM Re: Backup files over the internet [Re: Furry]
MusicianJerry Offline
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Registered: 05/03/20
Posts: 25
Loc: Leeuwarden, The Netherlands
Yeah, no problem. Your welcome.

By the way. In the manual from page 81 there's the gist of what you can do with that USB connection. And there [page 81/ 82] it is also very obvious that someone could screw this up in so many ways. It's probably why I wasn't using it. But earlier when I tried it, copied some projects to the computer, put it on a memory stick, moved it to another computer and from that one that was then connected with the VS back to the vs-2000, and that all worked fine.

You can, or so I've read in the manual, (that I just now found back in a folder that I totaly forgot) convert roland VS files to wav. en vice versa. But I never used that. If I would move my songs to my computer I would never finish a song.

I never had the software that they discribe with it so the rest I would not know. See ya.
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Greetings from Jeroen. aka MusicianJerry aka
The (street-)musician
from Leeuwarden, the Netherlands.

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#1855245 - 07/07/23 06:07 AM Re: Backup files over the internet [Re: MusicianJerry]
MusicianJerry Offline
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Registered: 05/03/20
Posts: 25
Loc: Leeuwarden, The Netherlands
For the Mac part, just one more thing from the manual:
'Mac OS 10.2 or later
The VS-2000 icon will appear on the desktop.
In Mac OS 10.xx, each partition will be displayed. Up to four (IDE:0–IDE:3) will be
detected.'
From there you should be able to go to one of those partitions and select and copy a project to your computer.

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Greetings from Jeroen. aka MusicianJerry aka
The (street-)musician
from Leeuwarden, the Netherlands.

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#1855283 - 07/07/23 07:16 PM Re: Backup files over the internet [Re: MusicianJerry]
dkfackler Offline
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Registered: 04/24/06
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Loc: Coventry, OH, planet Thulcandr...
Another tip: reserve one VS partition(must be 0,1,2 or 3, as those show up on the computer). On the VS, record to a partition different from that which you’ve reserved. When ready to transfer, copy the project to the reserved partition and execute the USB transfer from there. That partition will always be visible, and you have an additional virgin copy of the material on the original “recording” partition. It’s an extra step, but good insurance for a live location recording.

I use this process with all my VS recorders. Those without USB have SCSI2SD devices for backup/ transfer.

~dk

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#1855291 - 07/07/23 07:52 PM Re: Backup files over the internet [Re: dkfackler]
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DK: You said "Those without USB have SCSI2SD devices for backup/ transfer." I'm not familiar with SCS12SD nor can I find a jack like that, if that's what you mean. I DID see reference to something else on the 2400 line that vs2000 does not have. Can't remember it. Drat. Please advise further, if you want.
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