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#1855133 - 07/05/23 09:58 PM How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive?
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So I found a CF adapter that seems to work with my VSR-880, and Iím in the process of finding a CF card that works. How long does it usually take to format a drive? The VSR-880 is on the Setup IDE screen at boot up for about 3 hours nowÖthereís a 4GB CF card loaded. There is lots of good disk activity going on the DISK/MIDI activity LEDÖlike it looks like itís doing something, itís just that itís been going on for about 3 hours now and Iím wondering if that is normal.
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#1855149 - 07/06/23 01:25 AM Re: How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive? [Re: sweetbeats]
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Be sure that physical format is NOT checked, as well as surface scan. Set the partition size for the largest available.
It should format much faster.
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#1855153 - 07/06/23 03:29 AM Re: How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive? [Re: uptildawn]
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I did not initiate the format. As I said in my initial post, this is a new CF card, upon first boot with the new CF card installed, the VSR-880 has been on the ďSetup IDEĒ screen of the boot process for over 8 hours nowÖlots of random rapid activity on the DISK/MIDI LED indicator so I assumed it was initializing the CF card. Does it take that long to format a 4GB drive or should I assume thatís not what itís doing and risk shutting it down?
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#1855156 - 07/06/23 04:02 AM Re: How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive? [Re: sweetbeats]
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I see - it's actually not able to finish booting, evidently.
The 880 is not getting beyond the scan of the ide stage, more than likely it's because it doesn't like the adapter, the card, or both.

You won't be able to format the cf card until the 880 finishes booting.... and i don't think it's going to, from what you describe.

Have you been able to confirm that this 880 can boot to a standard 2.5 inch hard drive of the traditional type?
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#1855159 - 07/06/23 05:02 AM Re: How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive? [Re: uptildawn]
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Okay. Thanks much for the information.

And yeah itís a good clean unit, boots and records fine and passes all diagnostics with a regular HDD.

So I need to start hunting for a CF card that will work because the adapter is one that was recommended. I think itís the CF card. Itís one that was not recommended, had on-hand and wanted to try, but didnít understand what it was doing and you helped me understand itís not doing what I thought it was doing which was initializing.

[EDIT]

So is it possible to boot a VSR-880 with a drive thatís not already formatted for the device?


Edited by sweetbeats (07/06/23 05:20 AM)

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#1855254 - 07/07/23 11:49 AM Re: How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive? [Re: sweetbeats]
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Post some details. Any CF card (and adapter) should work, really, because CF cards are IDE devices.
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#1855330 - 07/08/23 03:15 AM Re: How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive? [Re: gyorpb]
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Thanks.

I understand that.

My question is does the VSR-880 require a drive to be pre-formatted before installation? The documentation is not clear. What happens if you install a compatible but non-formatted drive in a VSR-880? Does it boot up and then ask if you want to format/initialize? I just want to know what to expect during a non-formatted but compatible drive installation boot up, so I can know the drive is compatible.

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#1855340 - 07/08/23 05:47 AM Re: How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive? [Re: sweetbeats]
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 Originally Posted By: sweetbeats
What happens if you install a compatible but non-formatted drive in a VSR-880? Does it boot up and then ask if you want to format/initialize?
It should, yes.

Buy a new card, made by a reputable brand, bought from a reputable dealer. Donít buy an ultra fast card, the VS wonít be able to keep up, anyway.

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#1855364 - 07/08/23 04:15 PM Re: How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive? [Re: gyorpb]
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What I tried was a NOS Transcend 4GB 133x card. But I was advised that wouldnít work from somebody that tried it. I had it on-hand so I thought Iíd see for myself. I have an older Gigastone card on order.
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#1855369 - 07/08/23 06:40 PM Re: How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive? [Re: sweetbeats]
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Sounds like a plan. 👍🏻
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#1855643 - 07/13/23 12:34 AM Re: How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive? [Re: gyorpb]
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Gigastone drive does the same thing as the Transcend drive, so now Iím wondering if it is an issue with the adapter, though the adapter I bought looks identical to one pictured in another thread as one that works. I verified the adapter in and of itself is okayÖinstalled in one of my Yamaha AW4416s and the adapter and both cards work great. So I think Iím stuck at a compatability issue with the adapter and the VSR-880.

Edited by sweetbeats (07/13/23 12:35 AM)

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#1855653 - 07/13/23 02:38 AM Re: How long does it usually take to initialize/format a drive? [Re: sweetbeats]
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I'm almost certain it's the adapter and not necessarily the choice of card (Transcend 4GB 133x should work, in my experience). Personal experience and some advice from some here who know more about the details, say that even when the adapter looks identical, components are routinely swapped out for whatever is available and cheap at the time of manufacture.

This is "probably" why the adapter can work with some devices and not the VS at the same time - The VS has proven to be extremely finicky. I'm not sure that you'll find a "good" adapter, without experimenting and hoping for the best. Stay away from dual adapters, or anything "fancy".... it won't help.



Edited by uptildawn (07/13/23 02:39 AM)
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