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Not sure what that even means. Musically, culturally, impact? Nobody.
One great album? For my money, here are a few:
Pet Sounds - Beach Boys In the Court of the Crimson King - King Crimson Ziggy Stardust and the Spider From Mars - David Bowie Led Zeppelin II/III/IV/V Machine Head - Deep Purple Dark Side of the Moon/Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd Yes Album/Fragile - Yes This Years Model/Armed Forces - Elvis Costello Leftoverature/Point of No Return - Kansas 1984 - Van Halen The Bends/OK Computer - Radiohead Operation Mindcrime - Queensrÿche
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My sister had an envelope full of “Beatle dirt” she collected from the ground they ran across as they dashed from the limo to the stage door for a show in Denver.
That’s pretty close.
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It if I look at it from back in my childhood when I was listening to them all the time, that’s easy: The Stones, Stevie, Marvin, Al Green, Supremes, Elton … all those held their sway, and there was more
See, what you're really kind of looking for is who carried on sounding like The Beatles, but no way can someone else be at their best being someone else.
However, The Monkeys sure came close. I didn't realize until "A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs" taught me that The Monkeys had a massive amount of top ten hits.
First time I heard Squeeze's Argy Bargy, I thought, hmmm the new wave Beatles?
I totally get the Beatles, and I understand why people love them. I also think they were easily one of the greatest rock bands, if not the greatest. I just like alot of other music. If you ask me to pick my top 10 favorite records, none of them will be Beatles records. That probably has more to do with when I was born than anything.
See, what you're really kind of looking for is who carried on sounding like The Beatles, but no way can someone else be at their best being someone else.
However, The Monkeys sure came close. I didn't realize until "A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs" taught me that The Monkeys had a massive amount of top ten hits.
First time I heard Squeeze's Argy Bargy, I thought, hmmm the new wave Beatles?
Well I started the thread to talk about melodic quality like the Beatles and the rest of the folks mutated the question into what sounds like the Beatles.
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My sister had an envelope full of “Beatle dirt” she collected from the ground they ran across as they dashed from the limo to the stage door for a show in Denver.
That’s pretty close.
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Another way to parse the question which really works is who was or is able to deliver such a constant stream of quality product with that a distinct feeling of evolving? Then there are not so many.
Again, The Stones are contenders. Stevie for sure, for a string of albums starting with Talking Book. Marvin for two albums. Not that he wasn’t amazing before and after What’s Going On and Let’s Get it On, but those two are pretty flawless and definitely evolving music to new creative places that surprised.
Prince for a good stretch
Hmmm
That’s all I can think of for now.
Those aren’t the only kind of artists I’m into. Some I love don’t evolve much at all. But it’s an essential and exciting aspect of The Beatles and the others I mentioned.
You could quibble with The Stones and say they didn’t evolve a lot, but I feel like they were constantly delivering and surprising with a string of albums starting at Beggars’Banquet.
So it turned out to be an interesting topic for me. Still thinking it over.
My brother was a wild and uncontrolled individual. I loved him, but he was difficult for sure. Also very funny, but off the hook. He passed a few years back. Anyway, he was crazy for those first two Pretenders albums
But you say you are looking through a melodic lens, and then I would say there are lots of contenders, but they all precede The Beatles. Lennon and McCartney were (for now) kind of the last in a line of classically melodic songwriters, and that is kind of how they differ most from their peers.
But you say you are looking through a melodic lens, and then I would say there are lots of contenders, but they all precede The Beatles. Lennon and McCartney were (for now) kind of the last in a line of classically melodic songwriters, and that is kind of how they differ most from their peers.
What you are labeling “classically melodic”? Im unfamiliar with that descriptor.
Just a term I thunk up for this conversation, but l think they're Rogers and Hart level melodists (I know Hart didn't write the music). Cole Porter level. Classic standards level melodists, which is as high a level as has been reached as far as I can hear.
So, when you go listen to my Postmodern Jukebox cover of a Greenday song, you dont hear absolutely as melodic writing as Beatles? I hear MOREso…and mind you—the intrigue factor to ME….is that I sure don't hear it when Billie Joe shit singer singer it over his chugged straight 8ths power chord arrangement.
That melody has been stuck in my head for a week….and honestly—that didn't happen from Green Day’s rendition EVER. its been inescapable for thirty years….NOW its stuck in my head. As a musician, that intrigues me.
Do you not hear that level of melodies in modern musicals? In “not rock” music? Leading to why I never considered the Beatles “rock” really.
