I don’t understand why they seem to be playing Just the Two of Us with different words. I recognize the words but can’t remember the original melody that goes with them
The Green Day song : just sounds like they’re joking around. Doesn’t get to me at all.
Both nicely played, recorded, mixed and presented. Fun. Nobody is a slouch in these for sure. Yup, great singing both, the R&B mashup of the Wallen song super buttery smooth. The guy is great. Girl is certainly a fine singer, super cute, great instrument but she doesn’t do anything for me. It’s bordering on that slightly annoying overly dramatic stylized musical theater affectation presentation sung at me, rather than to me
I’m probably more of a scary pockets type
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"I love what you guys are trying to do up there" ...from an audience member at one of my gigs. Gear: Fender Medium pick
Agreed. For the GreenDay's melody--the more I listen--the more I think that might make the difference to my ear...while i call it context...because it's "the same melody" (until she starts scatting in between lines obvi?)--but, the swing feel is there-probably in her rendering of the melody too...and Green Day is the polar opposite of swing time. Straight as a board time.
I did a quick learning of the tune...thing is--it's hard (for me) to swing it up to tempo. As soon as you swing it, the pocket wants to come down in tempo some. He DOES rush the chord change accent hits--which implies a slight swing. Maybe that's what passes for a little swing that fast.
PMJ slowed it down from roughly 174bpm to 150bpm. That's a BIG change down. Maybe if I smoked a bunch of meth, I'd finally GET the subtleties of Green Day.
I had to put a shuffle beat on 174 to instruct me. Obviously, that's an extreme of swing...but, I was having trouble envisioning playing swung with the metronome 174bpm clicking off...I could count it but then I couldn't really FEEL it right...I get why...the feel slows even though the tempos stays the same.
I feel satisfied THAT is why the melody hit me differently--slowing it down and swinging it makes it a different thing--even though it's "the same melody". Before you even get into having a broadway alto sing it instead of a tenor choking himself with a spitty affection lisp. If I play distorted power chords along with PMJ, it's like a bar room boogie, sing along if you're drunk enough version...
If I might tie this back into the Beatles thread....Ringo could SWING.
Tao brought up Here, There and Everywhere. SWUNG...A...F. in three, no? I guess that's technically not swung, per se, since that's the FEEL of three, BUT...that got me thinking: is it possible that this "classical melodicism" Tao has coined that doesn't happen much or to the degree that it did AFTER Beatles era...is related to the feel of three?
I bet no one can name 2 songs in three that have been a hit in 25 or 30 years. Now..."swung"...little more likely...certain genres rely on that to some degree...but, in the 70s, you get Piano Man...Take it To The Limit...off the top of my head (and my field of vision for oldies music ) in 3....
There HAVE been discussions about how the feel of three is an antique in popular music.
Was bed of roses actually a hit? I mean we’re talking the Bon Jovi tune, right? Those were all about 25 years ago….but, back then don’t forget to add in Black Velvet!!
I looked it up after. There were a few I wasn’t at all familiar with….a Chili Pepper tune from 92….some Linkin Park tune that seemed to answer the question “can you play so stiffly in 3 no one will know it’s in three?” Also back there in the early 90s you have REM’a classic “three for beginners” hit everybody hurts.
There were more than I remembered….most the big HITS were pretty far back. I don’t know—that wasn’t my analysis. I don’t remember where I read it. Seemed to make sense. I’m sure it was meaning prior to “rock and roll” how 3 was more the default…and the style was to swing 4 hard enough it’s almost 3. I brought it up some year ago when I was invited out to a “jump blues” jam and then they called me on stage….and I was shamefully bad. Which kicked off some woodshedding in my part.
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