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#1932668 - 10/01/24 08:16 PM Re: America, "the land of the free" -- NOT EVEN [Re: Tao Jones]
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I mean, start with your thread title: America is not the land of the free because of the seatbelt law?

All the blood and sacrifice to get to the rights we have, and your issue is you can't figure out you have to lean forward a little slower?

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#1932695 - 10/01/24 09:24 PM Re: America, "the land of the free" -- NOT EVEN [Re: Tao Jones]
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I treat your cool threads like cool threads
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#1932702 - 10/01/24 09:46 PM Re: America, "the land of the free" -- NOT EVEN [Re: gonzo]
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Hey, if we're griping about Nashville government overreach...can I log a complaint about Ms Pop's registration doubling in cost because it's a hybrid? I fully understand the reasoning that

a)we fund all street maintenance from gas tax, which she pays less of...so there's a shortfall

b)this is a way to make up the difference by very tangibly raising taxes on the people "causing" that shortfall.

...but, it's bad governance, IMO, because panned back view, we want to ENCOURAGE use of less gasoline. Not encourage MORE use of gasoline. We should be planning how we maintain roadways without X fixed amount of gas tax. Or...continue to RAISE the gas tax to make up the shortfall--which again, encourages adoption of EVs and hybrids...but, doesn't address the long term issue. If you want to shift it to car title/registration, doubling an EV registration isn't how you do that--you should be increasing everyone's by a few dollars, so that no one ever gets what we got: a bill due end of the month for twice what it was last year. Taxing 10% of drivers double isn't doing anything EXCEPT setting it up to eventually BE double on everyone. Only--at a slower rate because they'll avoid it as long as they can.

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#1932737 - 10/01/24 11:54 PM Re: America, "the land of the free" -- NOT EVEN [Re: Tao Jones]
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That's "MR. Asshole" to you, buddy!
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 Originally Posted By: Tao Jones
Except we live in a country with a heart.
So Bob, let's extend this a little bit. Somebody decides to smoke three packs of ciggies a day despite the overwhelming evidence that it's a direct cause of cancer, and you're okay with giving them our tax money because they were too stubborn, ignorant and obnoxious?

Sorry buddy, it doesn't work that way. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY has to count for something or else everybody ends up shitting on everybody else like Fat Donny.
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#1932903 - Yesterday at 05:45 PM Re: America, "the land of the free" -- NOT EVEN [Re: Mooseboy]
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A woman that I work with is missing an arm because of a seatbelt. She was in a bad accident where the seatbelt sheared he arm off. I still wear one though.
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