#1932137 - 09/30/24 02:59 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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MadGuitrst
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Give me a bit, I'll get to my computer download it, and see where it loads. Then I'll tell you the path.
Okay, I checked. I gave you the two paths above where they install.
Maybe you installed it somewhere else, trying to force it where it shouldn't be.
Did you save the project before you exited?
Screen shot the message you are getting.
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#1932151 - 09/30/24 03:40 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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Ismellelephant
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Maybe I missed something.
Why wouldn't this solve the problem?
go to Options> Preferences> scroll down to and click "VST"> click "edit path list"> click "add path"> select "C Drive or any other drives, if you have others> click "Ok"> click "rescan".
The plugins are somewhere on his C drive, wouldn't this find them?
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#1932161 - 09/30/24 03:58 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
[Re: Ismellelephant]
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Popmann
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Often DAWs scan that for changes every time you run it. So, not ideal to say "look on C". No idea if Reaper does. Cubase. Logic. Studio One...all do. Mixbus doesn't--which means when you install a new plug in you always have to manually engage the scan to pick up the new one. Opens a few seconds faster...decent trade off, but it confuses a LOT of people for it not to autoscan for them...
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#1932162 - 09/30/24 04:02 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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Popmann
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And minutes before I had mixed the song ---called it up to do an edit 
Another Issue: why do all your tracks have a reverb inserted? Learn...to...use...a....bus...like a 2480 or every single analog or digital mixer in history. No wonder you couldn't run projects on a CPU I can mix 96khz on. My one reverb at 96khz uses less CPU than your 10 reverbs at 44.1...
Audio engineering 101 class is out back and three mobile units down.
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#1932168 - 09/30/24 04:12 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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Ismellelephant
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Often DAWs scan that for changes every time you run it. So, not ideal to say "look on C". No idea if Reaper does. Cubase. Logic. Studio One...all do. Mixbus doesn't--which means when you install a new plug in you always have to manually engage the scan to pick up the new one. Opens a few seconds faster...decent trade off, but it confuses a LOT of people for it not to autoscan for them...
I think Reaper will scan a C Drive. I don't if Reaper will scan for changes every time you run it if the file was put in a Cjo location. Emphasis on Cjo
Thought it was worth a try.
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#1932170 - 09/30/24 04:14 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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Ismellelephant
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And minutes before I had mixed the song ---called it up to do an edit Another Issue: why do all your tracks have a reverb inserted? Learn...to...use...a....bus...like a 2480 or every single analog or digital mixer in history. No wonder you couldn't run projects on a CPU I can mix 96khz on. My one reverb at 96khz uses less CPU than your 10 reverbs at 44.1... Audio engineering 101 class is out back and three mobile units down.
Good advice as many know but finding plugins already loaded is the current problem.
A buss is a problem for several pages for another day don't ya think?
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#1932185 - 09/30/24 04:44 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
[Re: MadGuitrst]
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Ismellelephant
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Oh geez, my apologies to bear and CJo. I have been on my phone, and I thought bear's post was made by CJo.  Now it makes sense. Sorry you two. 
haha. I notice the little mistake but I said "Take it away MAD!!"
and didn't want to interrupt.
Just for my own FYI. Why would scanning the entire C Drive not work?
I have a need to know such things.
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#1932190 - 09/30/24 05:40 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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C Jo Go
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As of July :: all verbs / delays are on a single buss ,,,,, its how all my early setups were laid out >>>
just needed someone to physically show me how its done digitally with REAPER
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#1932191 - 09/30/24 05:49 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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It might, but programs besides a DAW/plugins use .dll files. Also, I didn't think I'd want the DAW scanning the entire drive all of the time. But maybe that's just me. I like keeping everything neat and tidy.
As for CJo, I think it's just asking for more and bigger problems. Again, I could be wrong.
What I think CJo should do is clear the cache in Reaper and rescan (CJo, that option is where you rescan for plugins). If that doesn't work, reinstall the plug-in.
It's a new PC, and it seems it might already be getting cluttered. And we don't know if CJo has installed all of the different versions of the plug-ins, like vst3, vst 32 and 64 bit, aax, etc in different locations. And we can't ask him, because he has no idea. They could be all over the place on his computer.
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#1932680 - 10/01/24 08:31 PM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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Ismellelephant
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Have you ever used Teamviewer? I used to fix my sisters computer remotely using Teamviewer. It gives the person in the remote location total control of your computer, mouse, screen etc.
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#1932689 - 10/01/24 08:54 PM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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And this is why I suggested from the jump you just go ahead and invest in a good off the shelf DAW, like Studio One, that is relatively intuitive, has tons of online resources and tutorials, and comes with more than capable stock plug-ins. Stop wasting your time chasing plug-ins, and especially stop wasting your time with free plug-ins. Buy a proper license from a reputable company, like Presonus or Logic, that will come bundled with everything you need, and get on with it.
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#1932692 - 10/01/24 09:12 PM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
[Re: Memphis Monroe]
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I guess there are a couple ways you can do this in Reaper.
1. Put all of your reverb plugins as effects on a single track, then turn them all off using "FX offline". This releases all the RAM that the plugs use. Then save it as a track template. Then, you can just insert however many tracks as you want as reverb busses and you can pick what reverb you want to use.
For example, I could have all my reverbs on a single track template, with all the effects offline. Then when I go to mix or ... whatever, I could insert a reverb track, figure out what I want to use it for, then activate whichever reverb on it I want to try. If I don't like it, I put it back offline and try something else. For me, I like a drum reverb, a hall reverb, a plate reverb for vocals. So I could just insert three "reverb template" tracks, then pick out what reverb for what track. But you have to set the FX to offline so that you don't use system resources unnecessarily.
2. You can just set up your favorite reverbs as track templates or as part of a project template and you're all set. This is what I do, usually. My main "songs I compose" template has what has become for me the usual suspects: a couple of lead vocal tracks, three harmony tracks, two rhythm guitar tracks, an acoustic guitar track, a lead guitar track, three tracks for bass, a stereo B-3 track, and then drums. At the end are three reverbs, all prerouted: the Abbey Road Plates for vocals, Abbey Road Chambers for drums, and usually Waves IR stereo reverb as a hall or everyone-in-the-same-space reverb. The advantage to doing it this way is you can set everything - and I do mean everything - up in advance. You can set up the inputs for all the instruments how you usually record them. Put the plugs for the drums and Hammond on and receiving MIDI from the correct input. You can put your EQs on the reverbs. You can basically load the template and the only thing you have to do is click the record button on the track you want to record and that's it. It's super fast and super easy, super reliable.
You can easily make changes to like ... try different reverbs by removing the current reverb and adding a new one. That's a better method in REAPER than replacing effects. There are some bugs associated with replacing the effects which I've been stung by several times. Better to delete and add.
Either way it's easy to do.
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#1932693 - 10/01/24 09:18 PM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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MadGuitrst
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It's not Reaper or the free plugins, it's CJo, and he'd have the problem no matter what DAW and plugins he chose.
Just as a FWIW, on my PC, I installed Studio One and all of my plugins. Then I installed Reaper and Waveform. I didn't set a single plug-in path, and the plugs are in each of the three DAWs (though I did take time and set up all of plugs how I wanted under favorites in Studio One).
CJo is messing with the plug-in paths when installing without understanding what he's doing. He's also installing 32 bit versions of his plugins (and maybe every other version too).
Plus, he hasn't spent any time understanding the plug-in browser in Reaper and how to locate the plugins there. I mean, that would take all of 30 seconds. I clearly outlined to him how to set up a favorites folder in Reaper, but instead of doing that, he keeps messing with the plug-in paths. He could also just look under recently used. Since he only uses a handful of plugins, they would all be there.
In all, instead of taking a minute to follow directions and understand, he keeps flailing away repeatedly doing what doesn't work.
I've offered to remote in via TeamViewer to set things up for him, but he's ignored that offer. Maybe he's afraid I'll see his porn. 😂
He should have just bought a drive for his 2480 when it died.
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#1932699 - 10/01/24 09:38 PM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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Popmann
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Yes, obviously as I stated ("Another issue:") the many instances of reverb is a different issue.
Sorry to derail. I am triggered by stuff like that.
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#1932703 - 10/01/24 09:49 PM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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C Jo Go
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Yes, obviously as I stated ("Another issue:") the many instances of reverb is a different issue.
Sorry to derail. I am triggered by stuff like that.
REVERB now all setup -- a standard BUSS __ for each Project
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#1932709 - 10/01/24 10:11 PM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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C Jo Go
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. Plus, he hasn't spent any time understanding the plug-in browser in Reaper and how to locate the plugins there. I mean, that would take all of 30 seconds. I clearly outlined to him how to set up a favorites folder in Reaper, but instead of doing that, he keeps messing with the plug-in paths. He could also just look under recently used. Since he only uses a handful of plugins, they would all be there.  Would be nice to have the "recently" used --just pop back up ...Should not have RESCAN --every time ... same few plugs should just connect ... SO : trying to remedy the "problem" >> Decided to take control of my plugs >> place ALL in the SAME folder !! Will delete the 32 bit -- they came from the downloads
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#1932713 - 10/01/24 10:27 PM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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#1932715 - 10/01/24 10:33 PM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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I think some of you have had plugins -- well over 2 years now ---  Its a standard procedure for many to manipulate around .
VST3 plugins always auto-install to Program Files/Common Files/VST3
i created another folder called VST2 beside for VST2 plugins.
i only install VST3 if given the choice.
i don't need/want multiple versions of the same plugin.
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#1932717 - 10/01/24 10:46 PM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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C Jo Go
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I think some of you have had plugins -- well over 2 years now --- Its a standard procedure for many to manipulate around . VST3 plugins always auto-install to Program Files/Common Files/VST3 i created another folder called VST2 beside for VST2 plugins. i only install VST3 if given the choice. i don't need/want multiple versions of the same plugin.
NOW ::: if that was actually written down some where REAPER literature >> to make you informed ... 
How did you find out __ do tell ??
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#1932735 - 10/01/24 11:45 PM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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I think some of you have had plugins -- well over 2 years now --- Its a standard procedure for many to manipulate around . VST3 plugins always auto-install to Program Files/Common Files/VST3 i created another folder called VST2 beside for VST2 plugins. i only install VST3 if given the choice. i don't need/want multiple versions of the same plugin. NOW ::: if that was actually written down some where REAPER literature >> to make you informed ... How did you find out __ do tell ??
i studied the topic of music production for years, at least an hour a day with the info available on the internet, searching with Google and YouTube.
because it was a passion for me.
as you should have.
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#1932757 - Yesterday at 03:05 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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C Jo Go
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ONLY : missing a few tonight
C:\Program Files\Tokyo Dawn Labs\TDR Kotelnikov
C:\Program Files (x86)\Plugins\epicPLATEmkII
Can see their paths >>>> just will keep scanning ---
Edited by C Jo Go (Yesterday at 03:16 AM)
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#1932758 - Yesterday at 03:09 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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C Jo Go
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I think some of you have had plugins -- well over 2 years now --- Its a standard procedure for many to manipulate around . VST3 plugins always auto-install to Program Files/Common Files/VST3 i created another folder called VST2 beside for VST2 plugins. i only install VST3 if given the choice. i don't need/want multiple versions of the same plugin. NOW ::: if that was actually written down some where REAPER literature >> to make you informed ... How did you find out __ do tell ?? i studied the topic of music production for years, at least an hour a day with the info available on the internet, searching with Google and YouTube. because it was a passion for me. as you should have.
I was very passionate >> studied all the lit I could at bookstores..
With ROLAND and KURZWEIL ---there was a staff on call & large instruction books provided ..
Just finally sold my VS 2480 this year >> First I ever heard of VSTs ++ was not necessary with the effects I used >> for so many years >> never researched a item/tech if it did not apply to me ... 
Edited by C Jo Go (Yesterday at 03:52 AM)
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#1932774 - Yesterday at 04:27 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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Ismellelephant
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ONLY : missing a few tonight
C:\Program Files\Tokyo Dawn Labs\TDR Kotelnikov
C:\Program Files (x86)\Plugins\epicPLATEmkII
Can see their paths >>>> just will keep scanning ---
You really need someone to remotely control your computer.
And here's the Beaver!! MAD, take it away...far away...
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#1932776 - Yesterday at 04:43 AM
Re: Still spending too much time on plugin paths
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MadGuitrst
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Wally Smelly is right, let him remote in CJo, and you'll be up to speed in no time.
All yours, June Smelly!
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I missed this before. 
--the new download placed it somewhere accessible REAPER has found it on the RESCAN ~!!!
) The morning will not be spent trying to do "tech" >> 
