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#482843 - 03/19/04 10:48 PM Control external effect with effect return faders: how???
Martin Martin Planeteer Registered: 11/26/99 Posts: 1525 Loc: London, England	Hi guys, I have successfully got my Aux 3 signal flowing out to my Lexicon MPX 1, and I've got the return coming back via digital Coax, then to inputs 23/24 with the stereo effect return seemingly going into the master mix. So far so good. But what I cannot do is find a way to control the return level using the FX return faders. I am clearly not routing the return correctly. In the Ch Edit screen of FX return fader three it says it is assigned to Aux 3, but no signal seems to reach it. I've tried to fathom it out with the manual but have failed. Can anyone help please? Thanks! Martin
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#482844 - 03/19/04 11:20 PM Re: Control external effect with effect return faders: how???
kavish kavish Planeteer Registered: 05/12/02 Posts: 3002 Loc: the home of KrispyKreme and C...	Hi Martin, The FX return faders are for the internal VS8F-2(and soon to be -3)cards FX returns. I have an MPX500 connected via coax as well. I use Aux Sends 5 & 6 for my sends to the Lexicon. Since I only have two FX cards at the time, in the first two slots, Auxes 5/6 & 7/8 are always available.(I believe if I had cards in slots 3 and 4, but were using them as insert FX, I could still use their Aux Sends for outboard gear, is that right guys?) When using external gear, in the Patchbay I just route from the inputs to whichever linked Input Mixer channel pair I want, and control the returns from those channel's faders. Hope I'm understanding your question. $\:\)$ _________________________ kavish Check out my band on our MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/kavish13 And check out my studio at the Subterranean Spider MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/subterraneanspider
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#482845 - 03/19/04 11:36 PM Re: Control external effect with effect return faders: how???
Biskopen Biskopen Planeteer/Artist # 95 Planeteer Registered: 01/05/02 Posts: 2399 Loc: Norway	If you go to my web site, I have what you need explained with both text and screen shots! $\:\)$ $\:\)$ $\:\)$ _________________________ It's not the desk in front of the man that counts - it's the man behind the desk! AKAI DPS24 Tech Help Web Site
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#482846 - 03/19/04 11:40 PM Re: Control external effect with effect return faders: how???
Martin Martin Planeteer Registered: 11/26/99 Posts: 1525 Loc: London, England	Yes Kavish, you understood precisely. I had thought you could assign FX return faders to any Aux bus - internal or external. But I guess I was wrong. So you don't link the return signal to tracks, just to a pair of inputs, and control from the input faders? Thanks for the reply. Martin
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#482847 - 03/19/04 11:41 PM Re: Control external effect with effect return faders: how???
kavish kavish Planeteer Registered: 05/12/02 Posts: 3002 Loc: the home of KrispyKreme and C...	Bisk is the man! $\:D$ _________________________ kavish Check out my band on our MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/kavish13 And check out my studio at the Subterranean Spider MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/subterraneanspider
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#482848 - 03/20/04 12:01 AM Re: Control external effect with effect return faders: how???
Martin Martin Planeteer Registered: 11/26/99 Posts: 1525 Loc: London, England	Bisk you are indeed the man. But, call me dumb, I can't find the relevant place on your sperb site: can you direct me? Thanks, Martin
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#482849 - 03/20/04 12:32 AM Re: Control external effect with effect return faders: how???
Martin Martin Planeteer Registered: 11/26/99 Posts: 1525 Loc: London, England	OK - well I've got it going beautifully using the same routing as Kavish. Fantastic! Once you see the light with this Aux business it makes sense and the internal and external effects suddenly become very easy to manage. Excellent - and thank you guys for your help (still couldn't find the external effects section on your site, though, Bisk... Martin
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#482850 - 03/20/04 02:43 AM Re: Control external effect with effect return faders: how???
kavish kavish Planeteer Registered: 05/12/02 Posts: 3002 Loc: the home of KrispyKreme and C...	Quote: Originally posted by Martin: So you don't link the return signal to tracks, just to a pair of inputs, and control from the input faders? I should have asked whether you were using it as a loop effect or insert effect. If I'm just adding the FX return channels into the mix buss(used as a loop effect for multiple channels), whether just listening or during mixdown, I just control them from the Input Mixer, as any channels in use there end up in the mix buss. If I wanted to record the FX returns separately, then I'd route those Input Mixer channels to a pair of tracks. If I was using it to process a track or pair of tracks(as an insert effect), I would go into the Patchbay and pull the coaxial virtual patch cable in the Output section on down from the Aux Outs to one of the Direct Out pairs, so only this pair is being sent to the processor. You'd also want to turn off the Mix button on the source tracks Channel Edit screen in order to only hear the effect return. $\:\)$ _________________________ kavish Check out my band on our MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/kavish13 And check out my studio at the Subterranean Spider MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/subterraneanspider
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#482851 - 03/20/04 08:47 AM Re: Control external effect with effect return faders: how???
Martin Martin Planeteer Registered: 11/26/99 Posts: 1525 Loc: London, England	I'm using it as a loop return for multiple channels at the moment, but I understand what you're saying about insert / recording to track options. Thank you again. Martin
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#482852 - 03/20/04 06:23 PM Re: Control external effect with effect return faders: how???
Moshe Moshe Planeteer Registered: 01/30/04 Posts: 39 Loc: Israel	Hi Martin I belive thats what Bisk was directing you to: http://rolandvs2480.com/ipw-web/portal/c...order=0&thold=0
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