#492390 - 07/15/05 05:57 PM
Roland VS Recorder Power has Landed!
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Walrus44
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VS-Planet is proud to present "Roland VS Recorder Power!" available now in our community VS-Planet Music Center Store .
More Info and Order Information
“Roland VS Recorder Power!” is the most comprehensive and in-depth book on Roland VS Recorders to date, offering coverage of how to record, edit, mix, and master audio recordings using the various models of Roland VS recorders. There are three series of Roland VS recorders covered in this book. “Roland VS Recorder Power!” is the only up-to-date book available on this topic and benefits from the respected name and proven pedagogy of the Power! series, offering complete and in-depth how-to explanations and many screenshots with front-to-back coverage of the application. The book covers the history, theory, working methods, performance and usage tips, and additional peripherals to help the user become proficient with their VS recorder, improving the quality of their recordings. “Roland VS Recorder Power!” fills the need for a comprehensive and updated book on the Roland VS series of hard disk recorders.
What makes this this book extra special is that it is co-written by three of our very own Planeteers: Chris Skelnik (Hook); Vince Gibbs (FunkyBeat); and Karl Frick (LakeStone Karl). Michael Barrett (Roland Director of Tech Support) did the technical editing and the book is published by Thomson Course Technologies.
We have it on order and should have copies in stock by July 22nd. Feel free to order your copy today.
Order Here
Congrats, Chris, Vince, and Karl.
Long may you run! 
Walrus44 
[** Edited by Hook **]
Just a note to let everyone know that the book goes into detail on the 880/890 series, the 1680/1880 series, and the 2400/2480 series. If you are using a different VS, many items discussed in the book will apply, but the publisher asked us to focus on just these 3 series of VS workstations.
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#492391 - 07/17/05 04:12 PM
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Jazzooo
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Ordered, thanks!
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#492392 - 07/18/05 02:26 AM
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Gordon Groff
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Me too! Looking forward to it. Nancy and I worked with Karl Frick a while ago and I learned a lot about my new (at that time) VS2480 just looking over his shoulder. I'm sure that he has lots of useful info in the book. Great guy!
Gordon
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#492393 - 07/20/05 07:08 AM
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Anonymous
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how effective is this book for the 1824cd?
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#492394 - 07/20/05 07:21 AM
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FunkyBeat
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Very effective for the 1824cd. What is your experience level?
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#492395 - 07/20/05 07:37 AM
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Anonymous
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experiance level is hardly anything need a VS1824 for dummies kinda thing, if this will help at all i will buy right away
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#492396 - 07/20/05 02:50 PM
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rwhelchel
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Registered: 05/03/05
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Where does the VS1824 CD Unit fit into the coverage in the new Roland VS Recorder Power Book? RW
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#492397 - 07/20/05 02:52 PM
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rwhelchel
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Where does the VS1824 CD Unit fit into the coverage in the new Roland VS Recorder Power Book? RW
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#492399 - 07/20/05 05:12 PM
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FunkyBeat
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experiance level is hardly anything need a VS1824 for dummies kinda thing, if this will help at all i will buy right away
I hope you enjoy it.
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#492401 - 07/22/05 09:21 AM
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FunkyBeat
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Hey MasterTrax,
Yea, we started this project back in Jan. It's been one helluva ride for sure, but it's so nice to see it all come together so nicely.
Lakestone Karl authored the 2480 section. I really don't know that much about 2480s so I can't really give you much info on that part, however; on the 1680/1880/1824 section... hehehe, it covers how to get started recording on the thing, to editing, to mixing and mastering your final project. I weaved my own tips and tricks throughout the book along the way. I also wrote a section in there entitled "Getting The Best From Your VS Workstation." I highly recommend VS users to "study" that section and follow it. I've never had a single crash or hiccup with any of my V-Studios since 1997 and I truly believe it's because of the tips I outlined in that section.
Anyway, since you are "relatively" new to the 2480, this book may end up being pretty useful to you.
Have a good day!
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#492402 - 07/22/05 02:50 PM
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Tony B
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FunkyBeat:
Congrats to you guys for getting this book together!! Also, thanks for doing so. I know it will be a great help for the rest of us. I ordered a copyalmost a week ago, so I am looking to possibly being among the first shipment (if not, I can wait...).
Thanks again,
Tony B
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#492403 - 07/22/05 04:20 PM
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Walrus44
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We ordered about 70 units and we are scheduled to receive and start shipping on the July 26th-28th. Sorry for the inconvenience. The publisher never contacted us informing us of the release and although I maintain contact with the Hook on a weekly basis, we often have so much to on our plates to discuss, the book release just slipped through the cracks. I'm a bit miffed that the publisher didn't notify us when they notified Amazon that the book had released. Plus, Amazon probably gets a better discount and that forces us to sell it without profit margin. Doesn't matter, though, I'm really proud of our authors and our objective is to do our best promoting the book. And, I won't let Amazon leverage us on this one. We've had over 50 orders in just under five days, so we're doing a good job. Just wish we had the stock so we could deliver the goods - please stand by mates.
Walrus44
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#492404 - 07/26/05 01:45 AM
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Nathan's Dad
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I have the book and it is a great! It is an extremely useful reference tool for the VS880 user which are the machines I have. I am sure it will be the same for the 1680/1880 and 2400/2480 users.
It makes a difference to have a book like this written by guys who have lived it and learned it well!!
My hat's off to Hook, Funky Beat and Lakestone Karl for a job very well done!
Thanks again!
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#492405 - 07/26/05 01:41 PM
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Walrus44
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We have received our first shipment of books and will begin processing and shipping pre-orders starting today. All orders should be shipped by Friday, July 29th
Walrus44
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#492406 - 07/27/05 06:44 PM
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Tony B
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That is great news!! I am looking forward to reading this book...
Tony B
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#492407 - 07/28/05 07:58 AM
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wolfus
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hola, men and women, fellow users of the most difficult, frustrating and yet ultimately satisfying piece of technology ever invented!
I look fwd with baited breath to The Book - I was hoping someone would comment on whether it makes more sense than my VS890 manuals, which drive me insane! Is there much about the underlying recording *principles*? That would certainly make it easier than the cake recipes for specific things as they are currently laid out in the user manuals. How often have i followed those 20 or so steps, only to find that the effect didn't print, or the edit just didn't work, with no idea where exactly things went wrong. It always seemed to me that there was a great opportunity for someone to write a manual that explained things a bit better - congratulations guys - on a great idea! now, can someone tell me if Recorder Power makes it ultimately easier to use these devices?
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#492408 - 07/28/05 12:44 PM
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Walrus44
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can someone tell me if Recorder Power makes it ultimately easier to use these devices?
Walrus44
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#492409 - 07/28/05 01:20 PM
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wolfus
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Well, no - thanks for your reply Walrus, but it doesn't really answer my question at all. I'm glad Chris is an authority, but that doesn't necessarily mean he can communicate complex technologies in simple terms. It's one thing to write for a tech savvy audience who already know what you are talking about - like the kind of material you find in, say Sound On Sound magazine, and entirely another to write for people struggling to use the equipment. For example, I'm sure you would not doubt that the woman who appears in the Roland Turbo start videos (Ms Tyson, I believe?) is an expert, but frankly, there is way too much a priori knowledge assumed for beginners to begin to comprehend what she's talking about. Still, she took this beginner further than the manuals ever did. So, I ask again, is the book easier to comprehend than the manuals, Ms Tyson, and the famous 500 page download now gathering dust in a red folder under my bed?
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#492410 - 07/28/05 02:09 PM
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LakeStone Karl
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Mr. wolfus......
As one of the authors, I can tell you this about our instructions from the publisher.
This was *not* to be a "for dummies" book. It was to assume a certain level of familiarity with the machine on the part of the reader.
That being said, it was also to be in a reader-friendly posture, not quite so technical and dry as the Roland manuals.
Also, as there were only a target of "around 100 pages" per device, and the relatively short time frame of the authoring itself, there is no way that any of us could cover everything that is mentioned in the manuals.
But we three are all users, possibly power users, if you will, and as such we share OUR particular insights and methods.
Are we readable? Check our posts, and decide for yourself.
I hope that you enjoy the book, should you choose to purchase it.
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#492411 - 07/29/05 02:52 AM
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wolfus
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Karl, the very second my credit card goes into, um, credit on the 1st of the month, I will file an order. I suppose I do have some familiarity with the system now. I don't actually want a dummies volume, I'd settle for some clear discussion. For example, while the manual was busily crowing about eight wonderful usable tracks, and 64 virtual ones, I finally did a mix I was ecstatic about using all 8. And then I went to mix 'em down and found you need fully two of the eight to do that. Bugger. So I guess I'll have to learn how to bounce to virtual tracks, yada yada..Good luck with the book, mate - if it makes one tiny little thing easier to do it will be well worthwhile
wolfus
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#492412 - 07/29/05 07:01 AM
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jazzbassnick
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Got mine today!!!! 
Great job fellas!
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#492413 - 07/29/05 12:44 PM
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Tony B
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Posts: 231
Loc: Minnesota
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Hi all:
Yesterday I received my copy of the book. At the same time, I orderd a piano DVD on improvising. The book came directly, but apparently the DVD comes from another source and will arrive sometime in the future.
I think the book is something that every VS owner, regardless of experience level and model owned, will want a copy of this book -- seriously. For those with a lot of experience, this book provides a solid overview of the VS product line from the beginnings with the VS-880 through the VS-2480-DVD. More importantly, the book gives historical context of where each VS model fit within the general technology of the time in which it was released. Furthermore, for the experienced user, the book covers so much ground, that there is certain to be either material that you have not yet encountered, or at least you will get a fresh view on what you have been doing already.
For the new user, (especially addressing wolfus' concerns here), the book is VERY CLEARLY WRITTEN in a way that only a truly experienced user could write it. I have worked with tech writers in my position as a software engineer for over 20 years. Typically, the tech writer shows up with tape recorder in hand and "interviews" the engineers about the product. Then s/he writes the manual as a first draft, making changes as the product goes through its development cycle, culimating with POSSIBLY spending some time with it. Contrast that to this book which was written by three guys who have long been active producing real music in real life situations with their respective VS'es for a long time, as well as exchanging information quite actively for a similarly long time on VS-Planet. Let me ask this...is there anybody here on VS-Planet who has NOT BEEN HELPED BY ONE OR MORE OF THESE GUYS?? OK, then get the book. It is written much like these guys talk here in the forums.
Regarding which VS models are covered by the book... they ALL are. Why? Because the book talks about what all the models have in common before diving into specific models' differences,
and then gives step by step methods for doing all manner of tasks on each machine that is covered by the book. Since the VS models have more in common than not, having the understanding of the VS architecture from those who learned via the "school of hard knocks" is worth a lot more than the cost of the book, which is an absolute bargain in my opinion.
I can only find one fault with this book. I spent way too much time reading it since I got it, and am not practicing piano and guitar as I should...
I could go on, and maybe will in subsequent posts, but I hope this gives enough reason to not pass this book over.
Regards,
Tony B
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#492414 - 07/29/05 02:40 PM
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Walrus44
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Tony B.
apparently the DVD comes from another source and will arrive sometime in the future.
Walrus44
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#492415 - 07/29/05 02:55 PM
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Tony B
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Walrus44:
Thanks for checking on the DVD. This is not a problem. I certainly have plenty to work on, so I don't have a problem with the DVD not being there. I only mentioned it because it is an interesting tidbit of information for those who order multiple items. They can come from different sources. I will make it a point now to check first with the VS-Planet store before ordering this sort of material elsewhere. I would certainly prefer to support VS-Planet. Even if I wait a bit for the item, it is worthwhile to support VS-Planet. I do the same with my favorite local guitar store, The Podium.. I buy from them before looking elsewhere for guitar-specific items, because I appreciate them being there and realize they won't be if not supported.
Thanks again,
Tony B
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#492416 - 07/29/05 07:39 PM
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Walrus44
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Thanks, Tony. It's a good thing to check if ordering multiple items - especially instructional DVDs (except Roland DVD manuals which are always in stock). The Pro Audio stuff is usually always shipped in 24-48 hours - so no logistic problems there.
Thanks again for your support. We really do need revenue streams to keep this venue happenning. Lot's of people want more features and extentions to the existing features. We don't want to turn VS-Planet into a site loaded with spam and banner ads so we need Planeteer support in the products and services we offer. So far, we all work for nothing and everything that does come in goes back into the site. I think, eventually, soon, we'll offer the products and services that everyone wants and needs - then, lots of people will jump on the bandwagon to support us. It's a fine line because we don't want to overcommercialize VS-Planet where it nags people for their loyalty and support. We sort of want to earn that by the service(s) we provide 
Thanks, Tony. Great to have you on board.
Walrus44
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#492417 - 07/30/05 12:21 AM
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ClavinovaGuyusa
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Got mine today!
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#492418 - 03/06/06 10:44 AM
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Repscot
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This should be entitled accelerated learning. In the three weeks since I got this shipped over from the US, my understanding of my VS2000 (even though covered only briefly in the book)has more than doubled. I feel I'm being more creative now that I have an idea what I'm doing wrong. There are so many short cuts I'd never realised existed. Forget the manual which can be so confusing -- this book will have you up and running and making music in no time at all and isn't that what it's all about? Well done guys a real well thought out and helpful book.
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#492419 - 07/25/06 09:32 PM
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EchofallBassist
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Registered: 07/25/06
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880 EX owner--just ordered
i bought an 880 EX about 6 months ago-- kind of confusing peice of equipment--hopefully this book will read smoother than the awful broken-english manual that comes with the unit (Typos every other sentence). I look forward to receiving it. Thanks to the authors for giving us an alternative to the manual.
Evan
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#492420 - 07/26/06 02:25 AM
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theotherfredolsen
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welcome to the planet mr echofallbassist
my copy of the book is autographed by mr lakestone karl frick
it has been (and continues to be) an invaluable resource
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