#641779 - 01/18/07 09:09 PM
Boss squeezes classic Fender amps into a pedal
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Blue Roots
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#641780 - 01/18/07 09:18 PM
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will
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weird, i think.
so if i use a 'deluxe' pedal in front of my trusty 57-ri bassman amp, i get a deluxe tone ...? :banghead: : 
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#641781 - 01/18/07 09:37 PM
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Blue Roots
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lol... definitely the first thing I thought as well...
And what if you run the one of these through a Roland Jazz Chorus - or a pignose? lol...
Like a lot of this stuff... my only interest is if you can get some unique sounds that you may not be able to get otherwise. Example - I bought the Digitech JHE Hendrix pedal... not because I wanted to sound like Jimi(although it does that well) - but because I could see the potential for recording(stereo outs) and it had several really great sounds all in one... very happy with that particular toy.
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#641785 - 01/18/07 09:57 PM
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Wow! What will they not think of next?
While on the subject of amps....a few weeks ago I played for about an hour thru one those roland cubes...i think it was the biggest one. What do you guys think of those? I thought that it was pretty damn cool considering how many ways it could be used and even miced for bigger gigs if you think there's not enough power there. The price is right!
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#641786 - 01/18/07 11:00 PM
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#641787 - 01/18/07 11:03 PM
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Funny, the first thing I thought of the Bassman pedal was "what would a bass sound like through it"? I mean, i know everyone loves them for guitars, but it was originally a bass amp, right?
Do you suppose it's close to the models on the VSF cards? It is a COSM device after all...
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#641789 - 01/19/07 05:28 PM
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RGR
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Well if they actually sound like they claim it will be cool...wish marshall would do the same thing....but wait why would they undercut their own amp sales?
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#641790 - 01/19/07 05:58 PM
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Mooseboy
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This would be perfect for running electric guitar straight to the console, if it does what it says it does.
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#641792 - 01/19/07 06:20 PM
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The VG-88 has done this and more for years.
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#641793 - 01/19/07 07:05 PM
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Brian Roberts
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Originally posted by Liquidirt:
The VG-88 has done this and more for years. 
But the question in my mind is how much is the MSRP and how much can we really get one for--they'd definitely have to come in well below the VG88.
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#641794 - 01/19/07 07:12 PM
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Well... I haven't heard one(they were just announced yesterday apparently) - but my guess is that since they're sort of specializing in what they do that they're likely to do a very convincing job. I've not heard the VG88.
I will say that when I first heard Fender's Cyber-Twin model of the bassman and DR I was NOT blown away by any means...
I mean... no question that if ya want the real thing... you'll have to have the real thing to do it. lol
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#641795 - 01/20/07 01:26 AM
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Blue Roots
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BTW - I didn't see them before - but there are video demos for each pedal on their respective pages... so you can hear these in action.
They sounded impressive to me.
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#641796 - 01/20/07 03:30 AM
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I've had an old Bassman amp sitting here for years (black). Doesn't work right now--needs tubes?!
Anyone know what it's worth?
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#641797 - 01/20/07 03:40 AM
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NOK
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shit.. i just spent 1700$ on Boss stuff now they want me to spend more.. shit
gal dang it all 
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#641798 - 01/20/07 03:41 AM
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Brian Roberts
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Originally posted by The Un-dr.:
I've had an old Bassman amp sitting here for years (black). Doesn't work right now--needs tubes?!
Anyone know what it's worth?
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#641799 - 01/20/07 03:51 AM
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NOK
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uh i'll up that bid to 35$ and I'll pay for shippining 
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#641800 - 01/20/07 03:59 AM
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I bought a 65 bassman head 50 watt at a pawn shop two years ago for $350.00. According to my amp blue book with the 2-12 cab in excellent condition it is worth $700 to $900.00 In average condition it is worth $525.00 to $650.00.
If I were you I would re tube it they sound awesome with the volume on 11 guitar plugged direct in.
If you put a stomp box in front of the bass input it will give you a great creamy feedback for days.
If you don't want it it is worth market which seems to be rising as we speak here on the planet ...I'll triple the first offer and give you $36.00 plus I'll pay the shipping.
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#641801 - 01/20/07 04:05 AM
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Brian Roberts
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Originally posted by Chimp:
...I'll triple the first offer and give you $36.00 plus I'll pay the shipping.
...hey--this is more fun than eBay! :thumb:
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#641802 - 01/20/07 08:00 AM
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Unless you actually try a VG-88 or see it in action, you'll never appreciate it or what it is capable of doing. It is a midi and very impressive, nothing comes close, not even the built in VS-sims. No comparison really.
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#641803 - 01/20/07 09:55 AM
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Well for $700 plus maybe a GK-3 pup it better be just lovely....and I think they are and if I could I would but...tuition, rent, food, heat, water, electric, cable, cell phones, reg phone, med insurance, dental, car insurance, blah blah blah... :rolleyes:
Anyway I do adore 65 Fender Deluxe's but I'm not really a pedal guy..says the guy w/ about 2 dozen...
By the by Liquid D...I mentioned ur Satriani cover in the Satriani video thread...hope you don't mind.
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#641804 - 01/20/07 10:04 AM
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#641805 - 01/20/07 01:25 PM
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Guys, listen to Liquidirt!!!!!
Seriously, the VG88 is WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY more than a simulator.
First off, he was responding to Flametop wanting a pedal to shift the phase manually. The VG88's pedal can be assigned to any parameter (and you can ad external pedals too). So, it can be used to sweep the phase, delay times, reverb paramters, pitch, wah, volume, preamp or poweramp gain, EQ points.....whatever you want to assign the pedal to sweep, it will.
Secondly, you can't try one of these in a store and know what it will do. The presets are horrible, which is great news, because the box originally cost around $2,000. Then they were to discotinue it. A large outpouring ensured to not kill such a creative tool and they kept it alive. For the price they sell, supposedly they don't make a lot of money for Roland.
Also, the box does alternate tunings without touching your tuners. Totally convincing. Did I mention there is no tracking delay at all?
Liquid is wrong in that it is NOT midi, just uses the pickup used to by Roland to converter midi. But no midi means no tracking delay.
It can and does do simulations of guitars an amps. They can range from terrible (listen to the presets), to wow, what a great sounding tele!!!! OR...wow....I now have a Ric 12 string!!!! Or, wow, I now have a metal acoustic guitar and a selection of banjos....or wow, monsterous heavy guitars!!!! Did I mention is does fantastic basses too?
But the modeling for me is really just a basis to create totally unique tones.
Want a fretless bass? A fretless 8 string bass? No problem.
Want a 12 string guitar in dual alternate tunings (meaning each string is detuned and then detuned to different interval? No problem.
Been wishing you could so a wild and wacky banjo solo with lots of sustain?
Those effects you always wished for and in combinations and control you've dreamed of?
Gotcha covered.
In all, it is one of the best things I have ever bought....and I have a massive array of gear....instrumental and recording. The VG88 is definitely a can't do without, desert island must have.
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#641806 - 01/20/07 07:16 PM
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the new Deluxe and Bassman pedals were a joint colaboration between Fender and Roland/Boss. They sound great. I particularly like the Deluxe pedal, it does sound like a deluxe cranked up and the vibrato & reverb very similar. To me a very desireable pedal to put in front of an amp. Fender has a new '57 tweed deluxe out and some other cool things. But that '57 deluxe and one of those pedals would be a perfect rig. Conversely the Bassman pedal in fro of a Deluxe re-issue would be nice.
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#641807 - 01/20/07 07:36 PM
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Blue Roots
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Yeah - one outstanding feature of the Deluxe pedal is the reverb and vibrato... I've already got the "dry" BMRI amp... it'd be nice to try just this pedal between my guitar and amp.
I'll definitely be test driving one soon.
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#641809 - 01/21/07 12:07 AM
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Ramanjula,
I too have been lucky enough to own some "holy grail" amps. To me, the sonme simulators can be made to sound pretty close..but they NEVER respond like those circuits, those speakers in a real room.
If you want to get that particular sound...I dont think there is any better way to get it.
oh btw: your way off on global warming.
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